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	<title>Comments on: Embarrassing Moments in Engineering (and what they taught us)</title>
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		<title>By: Spat</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/14030/comment-page-1#comment-71078</link>
		<dc:creator>Spat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 16:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ed browne: I propose that the KC Hotel walkway collapse wasn&#039;t poor engineering, but rather a negligent disregard to the design specification during construction.  Of course, it could be debated that a better design might&#039;ve avoided the need for long-threaded bolts, but that&#039;s a whole other discussion...

I&#039;d also place the Citicorp Tower in this category.

One big engineering blunder not mentioned is the de Havilland Comet--the first commercial jet airliner.  Poorly understood engineering data regarding metal fatigue caused by repeated pressurization cycles led to several catastrophic in-flight failures of the aircraft&#039;s fuselage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ed browne: I propose that the KC Hotel walkway collapse wasn&#8217;t poor engineering, but rather a negligent disregard to the design specification during construction.  Of course, it could be debated that a better design might&#8217;ve avoided the need for long-threaded bolts, but that&#8217;s a whole other discussion&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also place the Citicorp Tower in this category.</p>
<p>One big engineering blunder not mentioned is the de Havilland Comet&#8211;the first commercial jet airliner.  Poorly understood engineering data regarding metal fatigue caused by repeated pressurization cycles led to several catastrophic in-flight failures of the aircraft&#8217;s fuselage.</p>
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		<title>By: ed browne</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed browne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 05:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kansas City hotel walkway collapse.
Another contractor change; killed many.

Could not find threaded rod long enough,
so instead of using threaded couplings, the project manager approved a change in configuration that doubled the actual
loads at the failure points (which had
attachments that were already marginal).

The change was poorly reviewed
an signed off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kansas City hotel walkway collapse.<br />
Another contractor change; killed many.</p>
<p>Could not find threaded rod long enough,<br />
so instead of using threaded couplings, the project manager approved a change in configuration that doubled the actual<br />
loads at the failure points (which had<br />
attachments that were already marginal).</p>
<p>The change was poorly reviewed<br />
an signed off.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/14030/comment-page-1#comment-67057</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 15:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Engineering is about more than bridges and buildings. Let&#039;s not forget the Intel Pentium processor division (FDIV) bug. That one was remarkably embarrassing world-wide. 

The Mars Surveyor &#039;98 Program is an example another kind of engineering failure, well-known to every engineer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Engineering is about more than bridges and buildings. Let&#8217;s not forget the Intel Pentium processor division (FDIV) bug. That one was remarkably embarrassing world-wide. </p>
<p>The Mars Surveyor &#8216;98 Program is an example another kind of engineering failure, well-known to every engineer.</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsey</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/14030/comment-page-1#comment-67009</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 00:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out the Lake Peigneur disaster -- in 1980, an engineering miscalculation in a salt mine under the Louisiana lake led to a whirlpool that devestated the lake and sucked entire barges down in the mine. The video is amazing -- click my name for the link.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out the Lake Peigneur disaster &#8212; in 1980, an engineering miscalculation in a salt mine under the Louisiana lake led to a whirlpool that devestated the lake and sucked entire barges down in the mine. The video is amazing &#8212; click my name for the link.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/14030/comment-page-1#comment-66765</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 12:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boston&#039;s Big Dig?  If you live in the Boston area you know what I&#039;m talking about.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boston&#8217;s Big Dig?  If you live in the Boston area you know what I&#8217;m talking about.</p>
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		<title>By: Datou</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/14030/comment-page-1#comment-66760</link>
		<dc:creator>Datou</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I flew into Kansai last year.  Beautiful airport and a joy to get in and out of.  I wish I knew the history when I flew there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I flew into Kansai last year.  Beautiful airport and a joy to get in and out of.  I wish I knew the history when I flew there.</p>
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		<title>By: DB</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/14030/comment-page-1#comment-66750</link>
		<dc:creator>DB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 03:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huh, that Tacoma Narrows bridge part makes the problem sound a lot worse (design-wise) than I think it actually was. From what I&#039;ve had to study, they were just missing a certain type of crossbeam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huh, that Tacoma Narrows bridge part makes the problem sound a lot worse (design-wise) than I think it actually was. From what I&#8217;ve had to study, they were just missing a certain type of crossbeam.</p>
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		<title>By: Heather</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heather</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 23:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a resident of Minneapolis, I think it&#039;s good to remember that not all structures are perfectly engineered.  The horrible tragedy of the 35W bridge actually instigated many bridge inspections and awareness about our large structures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a resident of Minneapolis, I think it&#8217;s good to remember that not all structures are perfectly engineered.  The horrible tragedy of the 35W bridge actually instigated many bridge inspections and awareness about our large structures.</p>
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		<title>By: James Schend</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Schend</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The article&#039;s wording is a little strange, so I&#039;d just like to say that the Tacoma Narrows bridge isn&#039;t over a river. (And it&#039;s definitely not almost 3,000 feet over a riverbed! Although it is 3,000 feet long...)

It&#039;s build over a particular narrow section of the Puget Sound which is just called &quot;Tacoma Narrows.&quot; Not a river. :)

And I&#039;ve always heard the story that the real lesson learned from the first Narrows bridge was more about resonance with steady wind speeds than stiffness, although I know both apply. After the Narrows collapse, though, engineers began running (scale models of) their designs through wind tunnels specifically to combat these problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The article&#8217;s wording is a little strange, so I&#8217;d just like to say that the Tacoma Narrows bridge isn&#8217;t over a river. (And it&#8217;s definitely not almost 3,000 feet over a riverbed! Although it is 3,000 feet long&#8230;)</p>
<p>It&#8217;s build over a particular narrow section of the Puget Sound which is just called &#8220;Tacoma Narrows.&#8221; Not a river. :)</p>
<p>And I&#8217;ve always heard the story that the real lesson learned from the first Narrows bridge was more about resonance with steady wind speeds than stiffness, although I know both apply. After the Narrows collapse, though, engineers began running (scale models of) their designs through wind tunnels specifically to combat these problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Williams, PE</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed Williams, PE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:56:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Far from being one of engineering’s most embarrassing moments, the Citicorp Center’s close call was one of engineering’s finest moments.  LeMessurier did not error in his design of the building.  It was designed to take hurricane force winds.  It was the contractor who erred (magnificently so) by changing the design without so much as informing the engineer.  LeMessurier’s response, taking responsibility and seeing to repairs, is the perfect example of engineering ethics in action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Far from being one of engineering’s most embarrassing moments, the Citicorp Center’s close call was one of engineering’s finest moments.  LeMessurier did not error in his design of the building.  It was designed to take hurricane force winds.  It was the contractor who erred (magnificently so) by changing the design without so much as informing the engineer.  LeMessurier’s response, taking responsibility and seeing to repairs, is the perfect example of engineering ethics in action.</p>
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