Comments on: The Nine Lives of Andrew Jackson

By: Vesko G.

Vesko G. — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 04:23:17 +0000

You can call Andrew Jackson “Racist, ignorant, and a bigot.”, but he is unique among US Presidents (with the exception of Lincoln and Kennedy) in that he successfully stood up against the International Bankers. This led to an unprecedented prosperity for the US in the period 1830’s to 1913, a wealth that has been squandered in recent years by the above mentioned dark forces.

By: Fordo

Fordo — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 09:06:36 +0000

Glad we are comparing one of the most evil men with Princess Diana, and saying he “cleared out” the Indians in like saying Hitler “cleared out” the Jews. Next time please say what he really was like: Racist, ignorant, and a bigot. this man was a terrible man, and a 20 certainly should not have him on it. Honestly expected more from this website…

By: Dave McArdle

Dave McArdle — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:31:35 +0000

I understand RG,the treaty aspect to which you refer and yes i see the unfortunate factor that the Nation was not well represented ,i grant it would be a heck of a arguement to ensue had the yes Jackson backed infuence,failed perhaps your good people would have faired better??me,i belive whether it was Jackson or who ever the same unfortunate result would have ensued ,after all ,it was really Van Buren who oversaw the sad events .which forces me to rely on the laws of manifest destiny the inevitable removal allready ordained befor the orchestrator Jackson took office.{maybe im wrong }its just floating in the scenerio.Jackson had a native son and a few Native American wards even in his nisguided outlook toward other races ,in his heart of hearts he recogignized them as fellow children of God.Last words of the man .”Dont Be afraid children i didnt mean to disterb you do not worry we all meet in heavan both black and white” does this sound like a deliberate racist hater?? no he had his ignorances yes think black people where his Porerty this agrivates me ,but yet a prouduct of his day .hatred of red skinned folks was rampant distrust yes.for which we all thank God can improve our respect ,right is right wrong is wrong ,in my heart of hearts i do not belive many ignorant people are as hating as we would believe ,they are just ignorant of the beauty of appreciating Gods diversity.

By: Dave McArdle

Dave McArdle — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 15:46:07 +0000

Yes,RG is indeed correct .perhaps because i have a certain bias ,because of what i am learning ,does not mean i am totaly without regret as to why these terrible ingnorant things of the past happened .in that we both find intriging and i to encourage all to openly and honest evealuate the conditons ,taking into account warfare and and unfair decisions that do take place in our world . we can find the find the facts as to this tragedy.

By: R.G.

R.G. — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:26:16 +0000

The Treaty of New Echota, which is what I assume Mr. McArdle is reffering to, was signed by a small group of dissidents within the Cherokee, and protested by a petition signed by 15,000 Cherokee. Jackson pushed for the treaty’s adoption, and it passed by a single vote-hardly a “whole Congress” action. Saying “the whole people of the United States where [sic] afraid of Native Americans at this period” is an obvious and false generalization: my family and 300 more like mine in Ohio would not have been able to remain in the state during the 1830s if not for the aid of white families in the surrounding areas. Tribes throughout the lands east of the Mississippi River had given up on warfare many years before the Indian Removal Act, and had settled down to farming in the fashion of the whites around them. In Georgia, the main fear was likely that the Cherokee would be able to keep the gold being found on tribal lands.

Mr. McArdle and I are obviously biased-I because of my Shawnee heritage, he because of his research and first-person portrayal of “Old Hickory.” I hope our posts here will lead people to do more research on their own, through historians like Robert Remini and Francis Paul Prucha and through tribal histories of the Cherokee, Shawnee and others, and decide for themselves who was right, who was wrong, what could have been avoided or what had to happen.

By: Dave McArdle

Dave McArdle — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:48:29 +0000

With all respect for the poor souls who where on the trail of tears.The events leading to that fatal event tell another story little known.A treaty obligating the native Americans was signed and expected to give 5 million dollars for the move in May.The Natives renaged and hid ,thus forcing the Army to forcefully remove them in Sept winter set in making the move fatal.Jacson was out of office and was aware of the harsh treatment recieved by them ,and ageed it was a disgrace.Lets get our facts straight.Proffesor Robert Remini has the documents again we make the mistake of trying to make this very complicated event cut and dried ,it cant be that simple it was very complex.Fairness??maybe we are arguing??todays fairness with yesterdays necesity are two differant subjects.The whole people of the United States where afraid of Native Americans at this period the whole congress wrote the papers for removal Jackson merely signed them ,i fel reluctantly and sadly .He in fact wet to his grave believing he saved his children from total genocide This i belive is more the case.

By: R.G.

R.G. — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 19:02:39 +0000

While I realize that this is about Jackson’s death-defying life, to say that he treated the Indians “as humanely as possable [sic]” is, to borrow an earlier word, whitewash. Jackson allowed personal racism (even his neighbors in frontier Tennessee, an area not known for love of the Indians, called attention to the hatred Andrew and his mother had for natives) and economics to override his duties as chief executive of the United States of America. The Supreme Court said in Worcester v. Georgia that the state could not force the Cherokee to move to Indian Territory, but instead of enforcing the Supreme Court’s decision (as he should have been Constitutionally bound to do) he ignored it. An infantryman who later served in the Civil War said there was more brutality on the Trail of Tears (the Cherokee Trail was just one of many, but since they had a written language it became the best known) than he ever saw in combat.

So, while it is amazing that Jackson was able to survive so many close calls, as the descendant of a Shawnee family that had to hide their ethnicity to stay in Ohio, I can’t help but wonder how different the U.S. might have been if Jackson had lost one of those duels with fate.

P.S. I can provide references for the facts that I state, if anyone wants them.

By: JD

JD — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 18:55:23 +0000

He personally killed more white men than all the other presidents combined

By: Dave McArdle

Dave McArdle — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 23:10:30 +0000

Desperate times called for desperate measure,s Jackson acting under orders from the United States Gov.Bravely did what was reqested of him remove threat of of Then Savage Indians.Indeed he is a hero in military skill.The Native American at thye hands of Tye Us gov where treated as humanely as possable,under the circumstances of the day –the Spanish killed without treaties remeber the Native Americans where at least given treaties as bad as they may have been percieved. To condemn Jackson as if he aolone where responsable for slavery is foolish –Jackson added to helping eventualy freeing slaves Those where the dreadful conditions of the day –no Andrew Jackson and Good Black and white slave holders did the only thing they knew how to help go with what we have or what ?/you tell me what the easy solution to freeing the poor slaves was –you will find it was not as cut and dries as we belive today as illegale immigration scuse spelling not a spelling contest

By: politikly.com | politics and world news

politikly.com | politics and world news — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:23:15 +0000

The Nine Lives of Andrew Jackson | politikly.com

\r\nIts a wonder Andrew Jackson was able to defeat the British during the War of 1812. And found the