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I was born and raised in Kentucky, a background that usually doesn’t offer much in the way of conversation fodder. By the first Saturday in May each year, though, the Kentucky Derby has made the rest of the world curious about my home commonwealth, and I find myself fielding all sorts of Derby-related questions. This year, I decided it would just be easier to write down my answers.
1. What are the origins of the Derby?
Kentucky has been a hotbed of the sport of kings since at least the 18th century, but the Derby didn’t begin until 1875. Colonel M. Lewis Clark, a grandson of the Lewis-and-Clark-expedition William Clark, needed a slate of races for his newly formed Louisville Jockey Club, so he decided to run three stakes races at the track’s first meet. The races—the Kentucky Derby, Kentucky Oaks, and Clark Handicap—were named after England’s three marquee races, the Epsom Derby, the Epsom Oaks, and the St. Leger Stakes. The first Derby was held May 17, 1875; Aristides beat the field. (Interestingly, both Aristides’ trainer and jockey were both African Americans.)
By 1883, the track would become known as Churchill Downs in recognition of John and Henry Churchill, Clark’s uncles who secured the land for the course. The first runnings of the Derby were also 1.5 miles long; the standard distance of 1.25 miles wasn’t adopted until 1896.
2. Why is the Derby called “The Run for the Roses?”
Because the winner gets a blanket of 554 red roses after the race. Whether a horse would rather receive a more practical gift, like some oats or a lump of delicious sugar, is up for debate, but the garland has become a beloved tradition. The practice springs from Derby parties Louisville’s socialites threw in the early days of the race. Each lady would receive a red rose at the parties, and when Churchill Downs’ president Colonel Lewis Clark saw their popularity, he made the rose the race’s official flower.
According to the Derby’s organizers, 1896 Derby winner Ben Brush received the first garland of roses, and in 1925 journalist Bill Corum coined the term “Run for the Roses.” The first blanket of roses like the one used today was awarded to the victorious Burgoo King in 1932. The modern garland is topped with a “crown,” a single upturned rose that signifies the struggle a winner must endure. Since 1996, each winner’s garland has been immediately freeze-dried for posterity.
3. What’s that song they play to the horses?
The University of Louisville Marching Band’s playing of “My Old Kentucky Home” as the horses trot onto the track for the post parade is another beloved Derby tradition. The tune, which was penned by Stephen Foster in 1853, is the official state song of Kentucky, and it’s been played at every Derby since 1921. Well, almost. The song received a few changes when the Kentucky General Assembly adopted it as state song in 1928, they had to clean up the lyrics a bit, including changing the offensive “darkies” to “people” in the first verse.
4. What the heck is a furlong?
The Kentucky Derby runs for 1.25 miles, but you may hear some mention of furlongs, too. A furlong is a unit of distance equal to one eighth of a mile. Originally, a furlong referred to the length of the furrow running across an open ploughed field, but now it’s mostly used to measure distances for horse racing.
5. What’s a mint julep?
A mint julep is delicious, that’s what it is. More specifically, it’s the official cocktail of the Kentucky Derby. A julep consists of bourbon (another Kentucky specialty), mint, sugar, and crushed or shaved ice. The sweetness of the bourbon complements the bruised mint and sugar, and the ice makes it a frosty warm-weather drink. Since the ice is broken up, though, juleps should be thrown down the hatch quickly; otherwise the ice will melt and dilute the drink.
6. Why is the mint julep so popular?
Well, we already mentioned that it’s delicious. It’s also stood the test of time. John Milton mentioned a “cordial Julep” as far back as 1634, and the first known mention of the mint julep in print popped up in an 1803 travelogue. Red Bull and vodka hardly has that sort of historical backing.
Don’t have bourbon? Then you can’t really make a julep. Don’t even try to make a julep with rye instead of bourbon; the spicy flavors of the rye just don’t measure up. As the humorist Irvin S. Cobb once teased his friend H.L. Mencken’s mixing abilities with the quip, “Any guy who’d put rye in a mint julep and crush the leaves would put scorpions in a baby’s bed.”
Ironically, though, the Kentucky Derby is one place that you won’t get a “real” julep. The official julep of the Derby is made with Early Times, which is a Kentucky whiskey, but not a bourbon. This quibble doesn’t make the drink any less popular, though. Each year over 120,000 juleps are served at the Derby. (Here’s the recipe.)
7. Do I want to ingest something called “burgoo”?
That depends on whether or not a thick stew of meats and vegetables sounds tasty to you. Burgoo is a classic Kentucky dish that could add a touch of authenticity to your Derby party. According to common wisdom, it’s best made in a gigantic pot and stirred with a clean 2×4. There’s no standardized recipe for burgoo, but it’s usually got pork, mutton, or another meat mixed with vegetables, potatoes, beans, and spices. It’s a dish that varies quite a bit from cook to cook, but it’s usually tasty and makes a great Derby-day snack. [Image courtesy of White Trash BBQ.]
Ethan Trex grew up idolizing Vince Coleman, and he kind of still does. Ethan co-writes Straight Cash, Homey, the Internet’s undisputed top source for pictures of people in Ryan Leaf jerseys.
One of the best parts of having a mint julep at the Downs is the commemorative glass. They list all of the past winners and be quite a collectors item!
posted by Lynne on 5-2-2008 at 11:35 am
The one bit of information I’ve been looking for and haven’t been able to find is how does one enter the Kentucky Derby? I’m assuming it’s not just whoever feels like it can run or there’d be a lot more horses running, but maybe it’s whoever can cough up some giant entry fee? Whoever has won X many other races this season? By invitation only?
posted by Jacquilynne on 5-2-2008 at 11:52 am
I’ve been to three Derby’s - the first two I never even saw a horse because of the activities in the infield (where the games include: inventive-ways-of-sneaking-in-liquor, styrofoam cooler diving, and writing messages in sunscreen on the backs of the poor souls who have passed out - “Happy Derby!”). The shower you take when you get home is always one of the best bathing experiences of your life (mint juleps are extremely sticky).
posted by jen on 5-2-2008 at 12:05 pm
A couple other things you should know about the Derby:
1. Native Louivillians don’t usually attend the Derby (and if they do, they go to the infield, which is practically a drunken mob of people). They go to the Oaks, which happens the day before the Derby (today). They also attend the seemingly endless amount of Derby events that happen in the weeks before the Derby: Thunder Over Louisville, Ramble for the Roses, the rubber duck Derby (I forget the actual name, marathon races, etc.
2. Hunter S. Thompson, a native Louisvillian, wrote his first ‘gonzo’ article about the Kentucky Derby, entitled “The Kentucky Derby is Decadent and Depraved.” (It is very good, but I could be biased since I’m a Thompson fan and I am a native Louisvillian, so I can relate to everything he’s discussing).
posted by Jenny on 5-2-2008 at 12:08 pm
This post totally made my day, thanks! I’ve been talking all day about how I miss going to the Oaks now that I’m away at school (or getting out of school for a day as it’s finals time here). I missed Thunder too, but only because it was too cold. And while I’m a native Louisvillian, I didn’t know some of the stuff here.
posted by Megan on 5-2-2008 at 12:16 pm
And just for the record, you DEFINITELY want to try burgoo stew.
posted by Megan on 5-2-2008 at 12:18 pm
Ahhh, Kentucky Wiskey is Bourbon. Due to Louisville being named after King Louis of France , wiskey makers in Ky were granted the right to call their mash Bourbon. If you notice, on a label of Jack Daniels, made in TN, it says Wiskey. Any wiskey maker worth his mash in KY will have Bourbon listed on the label.
posted by Shane on 5-2-2008 at 12:32 pm
Actually, all Kentucky whiskey isn’t bourbon. In order to be bourbon, whiskey has to have over 51% corn in its mash, be distilled below a certain proof, and be aged in new charred oak barrels. The whiskey in question here, Early Times, isn’t a bourbon because part of its aging is done in used barrels, a technique that saves its distillers from buying expensive new barrels but disqualifies the whiskey from being called bourbon. As for Jack Daniels, it has “whiskey” and not “bourbon” on its label because the distilled spirit goes through a charcoal filtering process before hitting the barrel, a practice that’s not allowed for bourbons.
posted by Ethan on 5-2-2008 at 1:04 pm
Another interesting “fact” about the Derby:
Horse racing is a cruel sport that is completely exploitive of animals. Sure, the prize winning horses probably get treated well but what about the horses that don’t win? And I’m sure the horses love being forced to run as fast as they can with someone sitting on their backs, controlling all their actions with pieces of metal in the horses’ mouthes. How humane. Watching these animals being treated like they are machines is disgusting, and it makes me sick. Anyone who watches/bets on horse or greyhound racing should be forced to live in small enclosures, get fed steroids and then hit with things to be forced to race while others sip mint juleps and bet on the outcome. Mental Floss, how about an article of “facts” regarding how many horses and dogs lose their lives each year so we can sit there and watch. Just goes to show how hubristic the human race is, that we would force another living creature to endure such pain and suffering for the sake of our entertainment. All of you “enthusiasts” should be ashamed of yourselves.
posted by MRWilliams on 5-2-2008 at 1:26 pm
Why is it that any time there is an article/information regarding events that people enjoy that use animals, the self-righteous and arrogant come out to disparage the rest of us? Apparently from MRWilliams post, man is the only animal that would derive pleasure from running fast and being competitive; how egotistical to suggest that you know what motivates and provides pleasure for other animals on this earth. Horses have been used by man since time began; just think, the entire west coast of the US would have remained largely unpopulated for a much longer time if it wasn’t for the horse.
posted by Paula on 5-2-2008 at 1:49 pm
Paula, you gave yourself away in your first sentence by your choice of the word “use.” What makes you think that any animal is here for your use? Is is self righteous and arrogant to believe that animals have as much right to a life free from exploitation and pain as a human being? Unfortunately, I have an idea that you will come back with a Bible reference about how god created the plants and animals exlusively for man’s consumption. And how dare you suggest that you have any idea what a horse might find pleasurable? Early man’s relationship with the equine was one that was born out of necessity, your argument about the horse’s role in settling the West is about as relevant as a gun nut’s use of the “Right to Bear Arms” clause in the Constitution as justification for owning a gun: it is simply outdated. Simply put, why does the human race persist with the arrogant assumption that our ’superior’ minds give us the right to do whatever we want with this planet? Keep driving that SUV around, Paula. I’ll be thanking you when I’m paying $10 per gallon at the pump.
posted by MRWilliams on 5-2-2008 at 2:20 pm
I would disagree with the first sentence of this post. Not conversation “fodder”? You’re joking, right? There are so many stories to tell, not just about the history of Kentucky, but about the looney toons rednecks that inhabit a large portion of the state (I’m a native Kentuckian (not a redneck, though), so I’m allowed to say that). PLENTY to talk about.
As for MRWilliams - I’ll bet you’re lots of fun at parties (before you get your panties in a wad, I don’t completely disagree with you. But, you’d be better off going after many other animal exploitations first. These horses are treated like kings and they’re bred to do what they do. Educating yourself first would be helpful. Mine is fine, thanks (figured you’d have something to say about THAT, you party animal!)).
posted by Paul on 5-2-2008 at 2:29 pm
I do believe MRWilliams needs to get off his high horse…
posted by teo on 5-2-2008 at 2:34 pm
Holy smokes, what an attitude. Nice trolling there, MRWilliams. What makes you so good at reading people’s minds, and the minds of horses? How would you have ANY idea what Paula drives (if at all)? How would you have ANY idea if these horses feel pain or any discomfort? What information do you have on their treatment during and after their racing careers?
And no one will ever force you to pay $10/gallon. Are you worried about the environment, or your wallet? If it’s more economical to walk OR ride a horse for transportation, what will you choose?
Way to dampen this thread. I will enjoy the Derby tomorrow. I might even enjoy a cheeseburger while I watch.
posted by TomH on 5-2-2008 at 2:41 pm
I’m all about anything encouraging the wearing of large hats.
posted by natalie on 5-2-2008 at 2:49 pm
What? No mention of “Derby Pie?” Its a sort of chocolate pecan pie, for those of you who may unfamiliar with it.
While I admittly enjoy a good bowl of burgoo (usually as a side along with some BBQ) I wouldn’t consider burgoo to be any more related to the derby than I would a hot brown. However, Derby Pie will be everywhere on race day.
BTW, legally bourbon can be distilled anywhere in the USA as long as it is at least 51% corn, and it meets some other qualifications, none of which specifically involve the state of KY.
posted by Florida on 5-2-2008 at 2:57 pm
haha…a cheeseburger…you crack me up TomH. Good one.
posted by super_girl on 5-2-2008 at 2:59 pm
I’m curious about the origin of the fancy hat tradition. Has to be some sort of story behind that. And it’s a neat tradition,too. Fun to see all the over-the-top hats.
posted by Melissa on 5-2-2008 at 3:25 pm
If I’m not mistaken, they’re made into horse meat, which is slightly sweet, tender, low in fat, and high in protein.
If I was a horse, I would prefer to run fast, though I cannot speak for the preferences of all horses.
posted by Sparky the clown on 5-2-2008 at 3:33 pm
um, ever heard the expression Horseplay? Horses love it. they love to romp, they love to run. they are naturally fit, athletic animals. they are meant to run. and MRWilliams, owning a gun, is not outdated, maybe in the urban areas, which I am 100% positive is where you are from. But last time I checked, I couldn’t scare a coyote off my porch with a loud yell.
posted by lucylane on 5-2-2008 at 3:46 pm
Obviously, MRWilliams is a PETA supporter and troll extraordinaire.
I can’t wait to turn on the Derby tomorrow, wrap myself in my fur coat and enjoy a nice, juicy steak. With a mint julep, of course. ;)
posted by Amy on 5-2-2008 at 3:47 pm
and if you don’t like paying $10 a gallon at the pump, maybe you should invest in a horse…
posted by lucy lane on 5-2-2008 at 3:51 pm
I am a Maker’s Mark Ambassador…sounds impressive anyway you have to admit. I also grew up about 5 minutes from where the Maker’s distillary is located if this helps my cred any. According to Maker’s you guys are correct on the 51%, the charred barrels, but to add to that one of the main reasons a bourbon is a bourbon is because they only use limestone water. Limestone water is only found in Kentucky and maybe a little in bordering states. Bourbon is also not allowed to have any flavor or color additives…so that smooth bourbon flavor is all nectar of the Gods…I mean Smooth KY Bourbon…Thanks! Go Big Brown!! Giddyup!!
Oh yeah, and I used to work with some of the large horse farms in KY and these horses live better than kings…their “barns” as they call them are Ritz-like…with chandeliers and marble floors…it is incredible! They are very much love, admired, and respected…
posted by kywldctnnc on 5-2-2008 at 3:54 pm
MRWilliams, I agree for part of what you said… But then again, horse riding in general is inhumane. However, I’d much prefer being a racehorse than a rodeo horse. They’re bred to do what they do, and love it. The only real problem I have with horse racing is that horses are whipped on their heads and necks. Beyond that, I’d compare horse racing to an Olympic champion running while an especially lightweight leprechaun hits them with a pencil.
It’s often thrown out of proportion. Yes, racehorses have short careers. Yes, they probably start training too young. Yes, it’s a tough sport. But it’s what they were bred to do. There’s a reason so many horses are so successful at racing, and it’s not because they have someone 1/10 of their bodyweight sitting on their backs making them do it.
Like I said, I agree with most of what you’re saying. But really. There are so many other ‘animal rights’ arguments out there that no one likes and people do because their sick, twisted and cruel. Horse racing is not one of those.
Random thought… Owning a flyswatter is inhumane, too. Do you own a flyswatter?
posted by Laura on 5-2-2008 at 3:58 pm
MRWilliams
Well i would hardly call horse racing cruel. What about the ones that don’t win? Its not like they are sent straight the glue factory, or beat or something. not every horse wins every race. they are usually turned into breeding prospect or sold. Forced to run as fast as they can? trust me these horses love to run its what they where born/bred to do, they get a high off of it. A horse can carry 20% of its weight on its back easy, most jockeys do not weight more than 120 lbs…so a 1000 lbs horse carrying 120 lbs is nothing. not to mention the metal bit in there mouth does not hurt them…they would let you know if it did. they dont get kept in small enclosures for that long, when kept on the track they spend alot of time, on the training track, walker or grazing. and in the off season they are shipped home where they have alot more room. also horses do not get feed steroids, its illegal, they test winners after every race. yes some horse do lose there lives racing on the track, that is vary rare. now there are people out there that should not be horse owners, there are people that do abuse there horses. just like people keep other people locked in cellars, and other people do the same to other animals. either way, you should probably get your facts straight. thanks.
posted by caleb on 5-2-2008 at 4:13 pm
MRWIlliams: Throw down the crack pipe and come out with your hands up!!!!!!! You are surrounded.
posted by John on 5-2-2008 at 4:15 pm
Derby Pie, interestingly enough is trademarked. My stepfather once defended a Frankfort, KY man that dared to call his pecan and chocolate concoction that. Unless you’re Kern’s Kitchen’s, you have to come up with clever alternatives like May Day pie or “A Certain Day in May When the Horses Run in Kentucky” pie, as Missy’s Pie shop in Lexington does. Regardless of title, it’s delicious and is improved by pouring a warm shot of your favorite bourbon on top, I prefer Woodford Reserve.
posted by Anne on 5-2-2008 at 4:18 pm
I cant wait until Michael Vick gets out of jail and starts an illegal horse fighting circuit
posted by Chris on 5-2-2008 at 4:42 pm
As a Kentuckian (now living on the left coast), I have always thought the mint julep is a sad, sad waste of bourbon.
posted by Scott(y) on 5-2-2008 at 4:52 pm
I completely agree with caleb. The horses that don’t win the race aren’t treated any worse than the horses that do, (which here in Ky is practically God like). Kentuckians value a love their horses, after all it’s one of the biggest and most profitable industries here. You should of heard the uproar when in 2003 the 1986 Derby winner Ferdinand, was slaughtered by his Japanese owners and (most likely) ended up dog food. That would never happen here, ex-derby winners, and horses in general have a cushy life here.
posted by Cari on 5-2-2008 at 4:53 pm
I too am a native Kentuckian, enjoy a nice glass of Early Times, love watching the Derby, and am a fan of both Derby Pie and Missy’s Pie Shop in Lexington!
As for horse racing being cruel…really? You come on a post about the Derby to say that. Get a life.
posted by Amy on 5-2-2008 at 4:57 pm
For the one with the Hat question. Melissa, I Think?
The wearing of the fancy hats started around the time that the Derby became a social event. The ladies (Socialites of the times.) would try to out do one another with the best and greatest hat of the day. Much like the Easter bonnet, and the Easter Parade. At one time there was a contest and prize for the lady that won. I do not know if they still have the contest or not.
I also agree. The writer DID miss the PIE? HOW can you not LIST the DERBY PIE??!!??
Enjoy the race!
posted by Diann on 5-2-2008 at 4:58 pm
I don’t understand all the fuss over a stupid horse race.
All this hype over something that lasts maybe 2 minutes - makes zero sense.
posted by Kevin on 5-2-2008 at 5:05 pm
I just have to say that the flyswatter comment is awesome. I had to laugh.
How about we worry about some more important things than horse racing, which is totally legal BECAUSE it is so heavily regulated and watched. You’ll never see an abused horse in the big races because abused horses aren’t in good condition to win. Trainers want to keep their horses in perfect health.
And I definitely agree with the statement that this is what they were made to do. If you have spent any time on a horse farm, one of the most fun and comical things to do is to watch the horses run and play on a warm spring day.
posted by Amanda on 5-2-2008 at 5:08 pm
Why 554 roses? Does that number have some significance?
posted by mike on 5-2-2008 at 5:31 pm
I’ve spent my entire life between the tracks at Keeneland and Churchill, and throughout the horse farmed regions of Kentucky. Not only are these horses treated like royalty, as someone already mentioned, but they love running. They would not be doing it, otherwise. A 1400 pound animal can easily support a 110-120 pound jockey, and can easily ditch him if he wants to, also. Besides, anyone who knows anything about horseracing knows that the jockey does virtually no “controlling,” the vast majority of what happens is up to the horse and its natural abilities, intelligence, and DESIRE! And here we are…back to the fact that they love to do it. So ha! Get a life! God forbid we assume a beautiful, healthy, strong, majestic animal enjoy physical activity. Geez…humans were running 13-26 miles in the marathon and that wasn’t “cruel,” yet it is if a horse runs 1 1/4! Loser!
posted by AnonymousNKY on 5-2-2008 at 5:33 pm
Boo Hoo, Mr. Williams!
posted by Karen on 5-2-2008 at 5:44 pm
As a transplant to KY, let me throw in my 2 cents. Racing horses are well kept, in no way abused, and we even have a retirement home for thoroughbreds here in Lexington. They don’t even have to be former winners to live there.
I still don’t get the bourbon thing. I thought the state of KY owned the “rights” to Bourbon products and it it was all made here.
Makers Mark may be higher profile name, but Woodford Reserve is a better Bourbon. I check regularly to make sure that’s still the case:)
posted by Rach on 5-2-2008 at 5:49 pm
MRWilliams there are thousands of Thourgbreds racing everyday. May can’t make the ranks and are sold to horse breeders or lover like me. My Thourghbred mare raced for one year and retired. She is treated like a queen and most other retired horse get the same attention. If you were familiar with race horses you would know that throughbreds are very competitive and love to win. Do you get groomed and messaged everyday?
posted by Michael on 5-2-2008 at 5:50 pm
Currently the official mint julep of the Kentucky Derby is made with Woodford Reserve Bourbon, not Early Times (although Woodford Reserve, Early Times and Jack Daniel’s all come from the same company.)
posted by Io on 5-2-2008 at 5:55 pm
Race horses, more often than not, live better than most humans do. I wish my house was as nice as some of the stables I’ve been in, and I have a nice house.
posted by Mick on 5-2-2008 at 6:08 pm
I’m researching information on places to stay, need the date of next years derby race, and historical places to visit while in KY.
Parents 50th next year and mom loves mint juleps so much she carries around the syrup to make them when she goes out. Resturants don’t keep fresh mint in house and try and pass it off using mint extract or something gross like that. She even told a resturant waiter how to make it and he didn’t understand how to make a simple syrup. Amazing.
So sending them to the derby next year for the big 50 anniversary they can get the whole entire experience that goes with drinking a mint julep. I can’t wait to tell them. Hope I can keep my mouth shut till next year.
posted by 50th anniversary on 5-2-2008 at 6:13 pm
i think that MRWilliams is a bit biases. while yes,some trainers are not the most humane, others are quite humane. drugging a horse other than bute (aspirin) is not allowed to run horse and they do check urine during racing season. the horses that make it grade 1 stakes aren’t forced to run, but want to run. thoroughbreds were bred to run. anyone who has ever ridden one, racing or not, will tell you that. the jockeys don’t weigh as much as a person that would trail ride would weigh. also many horses do not die anymore. they get adopted out to ppl who retrain them. i would say about 80% end up in new, loving homes off the track. i have seen both sides, owning a racehorse and being on the receiving end of a ex racehorse. most people today treat the horses humanely compared to say even ten years ago. the publicity of the negative side of racing helped to change this. so MRWilliams, you need to come to the modern ages of racing and get over your biased ideas. they are the minority of the racing industry, not the majority.
posted by Heather on 5-2-2008 at 6:15 pm
I thoroughly enjoyed reading the article. I am native Louisvillian and have not lived in Louisville since 1990. I miss the Derby weekend and the week leading up to it. I now live in Missouri but plan to celebrate Derby day as if I were there. I will say I visited the “in-field” once in my college days and as much as I enjoyed it then, I won’t do it again. And yes, I stay with tradition and still stand when they play “My Old Kentucky Home” and yes, I still get tears in my eyes every year when they play it! …Oh the sun shines bright on my old Kentucky Home…….
posted by Laura on 5-2-2008 at 6:17 pm
True, Ethan, the term “darkies” is offensive in modern vernacular. But Foster’s usage of the term should not usurp his motivations. The song was very progressive for the mid-nineteenth century. He wrote it in sympathy to the mistreatment of slaves (specfically from the lyrics, broken families and constant subordination) after reading Uncle Tom’s Cabin. I believe whenever his choice of words is mentioned, it is done so without the context of his time and, more importantly, his perceptions. And, yes, Kentucky, like every part of the country, has a history of troublesome race relations. Let’s not forget, though, the Commonwealth, although it did not outlaw slave ownership, never separated from the Union.
posted by The Real on 5-2-2008 at 6:33 pm
Most all the posts concerning bourbon are acurate. Although, most have missed one minor detail. The biggest reason, outside of the process itself, is due to the location in Ky the bourbon is made. All certified “bourbon” is made in an area of the now defunct Bourbon County, Ky. The county seat was seperated years ago to allow expansion, but the territory still stands as the major reason bourbon is considered bourbon. Any whisky, and yes bourbon is a whisky, that is produced in the specified region, using the classic process, can legally be called bourbon.
posted by Hillbilly Rockstar on 5-2-2008 at 6:45 pm
Do the research on Burbon and Burgoo.
Burgoo , If made to the recipe, It’s good eating.
( Hunters stew )
posted by Roy Critser on 5-2-2008 at 6:55 pm
True, Ethan, the term “darkies” is offensive in modern vernacular. Foster’s usage of the term, however, should not usurp his motivations for penning this venerable classic. My Old Kentucky Home had a progressive message for the mid-nineteenth century. Foster wrote it to educate his fellow citizens of the travesty of the institution of slavery after reading Uncle Tom’s Cabin. The lyrics specifically convey his concerns of the forced separations of families and constant subordination inherent in the practice. Often, I believe when Foster’s choice of words is mentioned, it is done so without the due considerations of time and, more importantly, the author’s perceptions. And, yes, while Kentucky, like every other state in this nation, has had a history of troublesome race relations, the choice of its state song does not reflect such. Remember, too, although the Commonwealth did not outlaw slavery, it never separated from the Union.
posted by TheReal on 5-2-2008 at 7:03 pm
I apologize, I’m an idiot.
posted by MRWilliams on 5-2-2008 at 7:06 pm
Sorry for my double-entry. I found my point to be necessary and didn’t realize there would be a delay in its posting.
posted by The Real on 5-2-2008 at 7:07 pm
“If I’m not mistaken, they’re made into horse meat, which is slightly sweet, tender, low in fat, and high in protein.
If I was a horse, I would prefer to run fast, though I cannot speak for the preferences of all horses.”
So Sparkey Clown have you ever tried horse meat?
posted by HORSEY on 5-2-2008 at 7:08 pm
I know nothing about horse racing, but I would have to say this is the most entertaining article I’ve read in a long time. Thanks you made me laugh…alot!
posted by Jenny on 5-2-2008 at 7:22 pm
Just got back from Oaks today! This is my favorite weekend of the year! I love dressing up w/ a coordinating hat, betting, winning, eating, etc! And I love all the Derby festivities prior to Derby weekend (Thunder over Louisville is the largest fire work display in the U.S., the marathon & mini marathon, Pegasus Parade, etc.)
The official Oak’s drink is the Oaks Lily! Very tasty… and like the Mint Julep… comes in an Oaks or Derby collectable glass! The Oaks Lilly is 1 oz. Vodka, 1 oz. sweet & sour mix, 3 oz cranberry juice, splash of triple sec (glass filled w/ crushed ice). I make it for our Derby party each year.
I agree with the previous posts I read earlier… race horses are treated very well… and they enjoy racing!
My husband’s family has had a box for Oaks and Derby at Churchill Downs for the last 48 yrs. (since the box was built) and it was just taken away from the family this year). Churhill Downs wanted more money and couldn’t give us the same one. So sadly, a lot of family tradition of Derby is gone, as they are more focused on getting money. But we managed to get another great box this year… already paid for! It helps to know people when you live in KY! This is the most hype this state really ever sees!
Also - Kern’s Kitchen is the offical Derby Pie makers… and the only people that can actually call their pies “Derby Pie”. I think Nestle Tollhouse has a similar recipe though! ;-) Either way… Derby Pie is the BEST!!!
posted by Ace on 5-2-2008 at 7:36 pm
Next year I have to take my son and go to the Derby. We have loved horse racing for years and the Derby is the best ever! I get teary (I know it is really dumb) when I hear “My Old Kentucky Home.” I even like the ladies in the big crazy hats.
For those who are going, enjoy!
Oh any tips on getting tickets for the 2009 Derby?
posted by Eric Crossley on 5-2-2008 at 7:54 pm
50th anniversary … You need to begin your journey in Bardstown, KY. This will follow along with the article above. Bardstown, KY is the bourbon capital of the world with the following headquarters located in or around the city (Jim Beam, Heaven Hill, Bartons, and my favorite Maker’s Mark). You can choose from several hotels to stay at in Bardstown or one of the many bed and breakfasts (Beautiful Dreameer comes to mind) or of course the Hampton Inn in Bardstown. Have your partent take a lunch ride on the Old Ky Dinner Train for a memorable 2 hour lunch excursion and then take in the Steven Foster Story that evening. The following day you can head up to Lousiville for the Derby. There are shuttles that will pick up in Bardstown for the ride if you did not want to drive the distance (approx 45 miles).
Have fun and make it a memorable experience for them.
posted by haroldathampton on 5-2-2008 at 8:09 pm
Just to clear things up a bit, while I believe MRWilliam’s response to horse racing screamed of ignorance, horse racing does have a shadier side. True, once an animal reaches Derby level, his future is almost guaranteed safe. However, many of the slower or lamed thoroughbreds on the smaller circuits do, sadly, end up in a crammed trailer on the way to Mexico or Canada to be slaughtered. There are some wonderful organizations out there working to re-home these unwanted horses as riding horses, but unfortunately the supply of cast-offs exceeds the demand, and many former racehorses do not die with dignity.
As I said, though, if an animal has even made it to any prestigious race, you can be as good as certain that nothing but emerald pastures and golden stables lie ahead for them! Grooms and riders often develop close bonds with their charges, too, so they are not deprived of “pampering” (within bounds, of course).
So enjoy your 2008 Derby, folks, and know that the horses you’re watching are as content and loved as any beast could hope to be.
posted by Alaska Cowgirl on 5-2-2008 at 8:26 pm
As for the person who wants places to to say for Derby would be any of the local Bed and Breakfasts. The Inn at the Park is nice. As for the mistreatment of Horse is wrong. In the state of Kentucky you would be sent to jail longer for harming a horse than you would for harming a human. The Horse that don’t win the races just try again next year or if they are to old they are sent to a farm and they have sex all day ( that’s the life). DERBY is like a family reunion in Kentucky. Most people only come home for DERBY.
posted by away from home this derby on 5-2-2008 at 8:32 pm
I love horses. In school once my teacher made us draw horses and mine odds were 50/1. I dont rememeber its place but it didn’t win. Too Bad so sad.
posted by lydia on 5-2-2008 at 8:37 pm
Mister Williams, your comments were uneducated an uncalled for. I think you’re jealous — you don’t get brushed and bathed and fed the best food availible every day, do you?
Here, let’s see…how about we let ALL animals go, right now! Watch as they run into the highways and get hit by those evil SUVs.
How about you go watch a few races. Eventually you’ll find a race where a horse loses his rider. Watch the horse. Guess what! The horse? IT KEEPS RUNNING. Without urging. Without that MASSIVE 100-pound rider. It wants to win. It wants to run. Come on, man. Toss some dirt around in your head, you’ve obviously been brainwashed.
Anyways, hopefully next year I’ll be able to join the…festivities…in the infield. I’ve heard that port-a-potty racing is delightful. ;)
Ah, to be a Kentuckian! I wish I was. Alas. Oh well, perhaps I’ll one day live there. I’m going to college to be a vet, equine specifically.
Pray to whatever deity you pray to, do something good for Karma — hope the horses stay well!
posted by Amber on 5-2-2008 at 8:39 pm
Well enough about all the hoop la about the horses that run races , its a time to enjoy a tradition of history that been apart of the U.S.A since 1875,our main issue should be about our troops aboard and to fine alternative fuel sources then about the cruelty to horses …… Peace to all but mostly enjoy ” LIFE ” as we all are on borrow time :-)
posted by Jay Bird on 5-2-2008 at 8:42 pm
I don’t think MRWilliam’s comments “screamed of ignorance” though as in most things, it’s not a black and white situation. Alaska Cowgirl is wrong about horses who’ve won prestigious races retiring to emerald pastures. Some do and some don’t. It depends variably on the horse’s breeding potential and the owner’s ability to keep an “unproductive” animal for many years. Likewise, a horse that lost a few races might be retired to a nice owner for riding. My hat’s off to the horse though — what they have gone through for the human race as work horses, war horses, pleasure horses. They are the ones who deserve eternal reward!
posted by Love Love Love Horses on 5-2-2008 at 8:44 pm
Kevin - Why is the Derby so important?
As a native Louisivillian, I really think the race itself is not the important part. It is all the events leading up to it, and the whole day, not just the race, is like one big celebration/party.
posted by Jenny on 5-2-2008 at 8:57 pm
Laura wrote:
“MRWilliams, I agree for part of what you said… But then again, horse riding in general is inhumane. However, I’d much prefer being a racehorse than a rodeo horse.”
By rodeo horse I’m assuming you mean the bucking horses. If anything they have better lives than 99% of the horses out there. Your typical horse if he doesn’t want a rider may crow-hop and buck a little but a rodeo horse is athletic about it, not that common, and thus extremely valuable. You really can’t make a bucking horse - one that will jump high, twist and turn. Whipped and beaten horses get sullen or if they have spirit will fight dirty (run the rider right against the fence.).
IIRC the rules are that a bucking horse can only be used once a day or every other day. The cowboy is supposed to stay on for 8 seconds and the bucking horse owner damn well wants that cowboy off right after 8 seconds. He wants his horse to enjoy bucking, to “win” and not get worn down. That’s also why the owners don’t want them to be used more than once a day. A tired horse won’t buck well and may stop bucking all together. Talented bucking horses get to retire to make baby broncs.
Now if you want to talk about the saddest horses, take a gander at the “big lick” Tennessee Walking Horses . That’s a twisted way to treat an animal.
Chris
posted by Chris on 5-2-2008 at 9:11 pm
In response to those claiming that horses are forced to run: This is what Thoroughbreds are born and raised to do. They love it. For a large part of the time, jockeys are there solely to keep the horse in check so it doesn’t hurt itself. For example, the great filly Ruffian never reached her full potential, simply because no one dared to let her go that fast. She was held back and still won her races.
As in every sport, there is a seedy side to the business. On smaller tracks, horses are often discarded and sold to anyone who will take them after races. Many of them find work as pleasure or sport horses in comfortable homes.
My personal belief is that there is only one thing inhumane about racing, and that is the age at which they are put onto the track. I believe that races should begin as three-year-olds at the absolute earliest, if not preferably later. Their bones should have more time to mature and toughen.
posted by Equus on 5-2-2008 at 9:56 pm
As a life long Kentuckian, I would have to guess that the author of this article either did not live near Louisville, or has not lived here for a long time. He obviously researched the history of the KY Derby, and how to make a Mint Julep, but didn’t seem to be with the program. I have never heard of burgoo being part of the Derby tradition, though it is yummy! I have to second the comments on the derby pie, that was a big ommission!
I also thought it was funny that he didn’t mention the fact that most of the locals don’t even attend the Derby, I always explain to people who live outside of Louisville about our local tradtion with the Oaks. I also think the infield warranted some mention, it is the funniest part of the Derby! Hopefully it will be nice weather tomorrow for my long shot picks!
posted by Rebecca on 5-2-2008 at 10:19 pm
To reply to the question, why is derby so important? It is as many have said not just the actual day but also the weeks proceeding it that make it fun. I would equate it to the Kentucky version of Mardi Gras (or what Mardi Gras is to New Orleans). I have relatives wo have moved to Indiana and only come home at Derby, and little known, local schools Jefferson County kids, get the day before Derby, Oakes Day (Fillies run for the Lillies) off from school, as far as I know Jefferson County is the only one that does this, allowing the kids to celebrate with out of town family.
posted by Cari on 5-2-2008 at 10:22 pm
Mr. Williams has fallen and he can’t giddy-up.
posted by Bob on 5-2-2008 at 10:37 pm
The derby is Kentucky’s time to shine. We haven’t had a very good basketball team in awhile so thank goodness they can’t take this. I’m not from the “Golden Triangle” so anytime you get to see Kentucky in a positive light is a good thing. I think the article could have been better, it just doesn’t talk about the festivities leading up to the race or that other races are going on throughout the day. Thanks for the article, go Colonel John!
posted by Mike on 5-2-2008 at 10:56 pm
goodness they can’t take this. I’m not from the “Golden Triangle” so anytime you get to see Kentucky in a positive light is a good thing. I think the article could have been better, it just doesn’t talk about the festivities leading up to the race or that other races are going on throughout the day. Thanks for the article, go Colonel John!
posted by Mike on 5-2-2008 at 10:58 pm
Wow Mr. Williams. If you want to talk about cruel treatment of horses, lets talk about the discontinuation of horse slaughter, which has resulted in many horses being starved because folks don’t have a means to sell or give away horses they can no longer care form, especially this past year when hay was scarce.
Those Thoroughbreds are very well cared for well. I have visited a couple of Thoroughbred farms, and felt like I needed to go buy new shoes to be allowed to walk in their barns so I didn’t get anything dirty. They are bred for and love to run. Having been around babies and ones in training, there is more challenge in training them to slow down enough to walk and trot than to run. Those metal “things” in their mouths are to help keep them safe and to slow them down. It sits behind their teeth and they usually don’t even know its their until that little “fly” on their back pulls on it and says “Whoa” or “turn here so you are safe”.
By the way, I am posting so late because I just spent four hours at a vet clinic making sure my horse (not a Thoroughbred) was receiving the proper care and possible surgery to keep her alive. We take her out to places and make her walk, trot and canter and let someone (a genius if they like her the best, and an idiot if they don’t) pick her out of a crowd. She LOVES to go to shows - gets excited when she gets a bath and her whiskers trimmed because she knows she gets to go somewhere to show off. Yes, she has a job to do to “earn her keep”, but the biggest part of that is suggling up to my daughter every time she comes near.
I CRACKED UP at the post referring to constantly checking to make sure Woodford Reserve is still better than Makers Mark. Thanks for the quality control!!!
Enjoy this event for what it is - an awesome opportunity for folks to watch some of the best athletes around compete.
posted by Jean on 5-2-2008 at 11:17 pm
Wow, article started out splendid,……reading comments…boy, if you are not a horse racing fan, you shouldn’t be leaving comments on the blog it ruins it for me and I am sure everyone else who is waiting for this splendid day!! If you have ever bred and raised these glorious animals you will know that this is “their” passion, to run, run like the wind…., and every tradition that surrounds this “holiday” is a tribute to these awesome animals!! Anyone who begs to differ should not be on this post! - gobabygo!
posted by wow on 5-2-2008 at 11:39 pm
Just my two cents:
Read an article a while back on Barbaro, and on thoroughbred racing in general. Those horses aren’t bred to do anything but run. Anatomically, they aren’t shaped like normal horses, with thinner legs and more muscle. When choosing whether a horse will become a racehorse or just a breeding horse, they evaluate the horse’s personality. If it has that fire and wants to race, then it’s a racehorse.
And like many said, a lot of thoroughbreds, racers or not, get very well treated. It’s a shame that most of the time you only get to hear about the sad cases, where an animal is neglected. But, such is the case with all of the unfortunate dogs and cats that are mistreated every year. Mistreatment of horses is definitely the exception, not the rule.
posted by Amanda on 5-2-2008 at 11:48 pm
Laura says: “I’d compare horse racing to an Olympic champion running while an especially lightweight leprechaun hits them with a pencil.”
What a great mental image. Thanks for the laugh.
I am a native Kentuckian (now a West Coast transplant), and I would have to agree with others that Derby Pie is an essential part of Derby culture. I really want to like mint juleps, but I just can’t stomach bourbon.
Happy Derby!
posted by go west on 5-2-2008 at 11:55 pm
Well Mr Williams did say he was sorry now, so everyone relax….maybe now he will change his mind about horse racing.
posted by caleb on 5-3-2008 at 2:05 am
I’ve worked the Derby three years now (as a one of those door holders/bracelet-checkers), and each year it gets more and more fun checking out the outrageous hats people try and pull off. :)
If any of you might be attending — tip those little people! Most of them are doing it for fundraising purposes anyway and don’t get a dime (Actually, some of the school groups have to give up their tips too, but I think that’s a little unfair).
posted by Stephanie on 5-3-2008 at 2:08 am
What?! No mention of the hats and Derby Pie?!
Great article anyway. I’ve watched the Kentucky Derby since I was eleven years old (on TV, of course) and it played a big part in the fact that I’m now an Animal Science/Agricultural Business major planning on becoming a manager in the Thoroughbred breeding industry.
I had the pleasure of visiting Coolmore Stud in Ireland a couple months ago. They’re the world’s largest Thoroughbred breeder. I saw many of their barns and horses, and let me tell you, I’d be happy to live like that.
Yes, there’s a dark side to the industry; Eight Belles was an unfortunate example of that (as was George Washington, and Barbaro, and Pine Island). But there are also plenty of horses starving to death (almost every week I see a new report of horses found starving and dying), being injured in their paddocks, and dying from things like colic that these horses won’t worry about. Many of the horsemen who work at the tracks treat these horses like they’re gold. They don’t bat an eye at spending the night walking a colicky horse or putting protective bandages on to make sure that the chance of injury is low.
I love horse racing. I would like to see some changes made, but that’s why I’m doing it professionally.
posted by Kate on 5-6-2008 at 9:48 am