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		<title>By: Jim Bell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jan 2012 17:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure where this writer gets his information, but Matthew F. Maury was not the founder of the US Naval Academy, and he was not involved in colonizing Brazil. He&#039;s probably confusing him with Commodore Matthew Perry, who was instrumental in establishing the academy at Annapolis. 

Matthew Maury was an internationally  famous oceanographer and geographer, who was, for a time, Superintendent of the U.S. Naval Observatory in Washington DC. 

Furthermore, Maury&#039;s colonial interests were in Mexico, not Brazil. He was acquainted with the puppet Emperor Maximilian, and in the summer of 1865 he had no trouble persuading Maximilian to allow former Confederate soldiers and citizens to immigrate to Mexico.

Maximilian even appointed Maury to be the first, and last, Imperial Commissioner of Immigration.

The Mexican colonies collapsed and failed miserably within two years. Maury&#039;s job was abolished, and he was forced to return to the United States.

There is no record of him having anything to do with the Brazil colonies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure where this writer gets his information, but Matthew F. Maury was not the founder of the US Naval Academy, and he was not involved in colonizing Brazil. He&#8217;s probably confusing him with Commodore Matthew Perry, who was instrumental in establishing the academy at Annapolis. </p>
<p>Matthew Maury was an internationally  famous oceanographer and geographer, who was, for a time, Superintendent of the U.S. Naval Observatory in Washington DC. </p>
<p>Furthermore, Maury&#8217;s colonial interests were in Mexico, not Brazil. He was acquainted with the puppet Emperor Maximilian, and in the summer of 1865 he had no trouble persuading Maximilian to allow former Confederate soldiers and citizens to immigrate to Mexico.</p>
<p>Maximilian even appointed Maury to be the first, and last, Imperial Commissioner of Immigration.</p>
<p>The Mexican colonies collapsed and failed miserably within two years. Maury&#8217;s job was abolished, and he was forced to return to the United States.</p>
<p>There is no record of him having anything to do with the Brazil colonies.</p>
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		<title>By: ovega</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/16659/comment-page-1#comment-438372</link>
		<dc:creator>ovega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 16:29:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too bad today Latin Americans are invading back... Curious, isn&#039;t?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad today Latin Americans are invading back&#8230; Curious, isn&#8217;t?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Perkins</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/16659/comment-page-1#comment-436631</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Perkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 May 2011 12:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The author of this article makes the common mistake of assuming that, because Southern politicians in the antebellum period favored expansion into Latin America as a means to expand slavery, that the same would be true of an independent Confederacy.  However, he ignores the REASON WHY politicians in the antebellum South held such views, and why those reasons would not apply to an independent Confederacy.  

The South, in the antebellum period, was vitally concerned to maintain the balance in the U.S. Congress between the number of free states and the number of slave states.  As the Northern population grew much faster than did that of the South, the House of Representatives was dominated early on by the North. Therefore, the South sought to ensure that the balance between free and slave states in the Senate was maintained so as to prevent total Northern domination of Congress. 

With the admission of California as a free state as a result of the compromise of 1850, the balance in the Senate was tipped in favor of the North.  Therefore, during the 1850s, we see Southern politicians advocating all sorts of things to restore the balance. That&#039;s why they supported, for example, the abandonment of the Missouri Compromise and the passage of the Kansas-Nebraska Act, which stated that the issue of slavery in the territories would be settled on the basis of popular sovereignty.  And that&#039;s also why they supported the acquisition of new territory, south of the border, which would be reserved for slavery. 

However, an independent Confederacy would not need to be concerned about the composition of the United States Congress anymore.  The entire reason why expansion was sought by Southern politicians in the 1850s would have simply disappeared. 

It is true that the Confederates did intrigue in Northern Mexico during the war, seeking the separation of some of the northern Mexican states from that country.  But there was a separate reason for that which would not apply to expansion to places like Cuba or Brazil, other supposed &quot;Confederate targets&quot; cited by Mr. Sass in his article.  The acquisition of the Mexican states of Chihuahua and Sonora would have given the Confederacy a Pacific coast and access to Asian trade markets. The port of Guaymas, in Sonora, was and is one of the finest natural harbors in the world. Confederate control of that harbor would have been highly advantageous to the Confederacy. 

If Mr. Sass is going to claim that the Confederacy had some grand plan to conquer Latin America, it would behoove him to cite actual Confederate statements and plans made during the Civil War, and not the statements of Southern politicians before the war.  There is little to no evidence that the Confederacy actually had any plans to expand elsewhere in Latin America, other than in northern Mexico as stated above.  There wouldn&#039;t have been a reason for that, since, being independent, the Confederacy would no longer have been concerned by the composition of the U.S. Congress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The author of this article makes the common mistake of assuming that, because Southern politicians in the antebellum period favored expansion into Latin America as a means to expand slavery, that the same would be true of an independent Confederacy.  However, he ignores the REASON WHY politicians in the antebellum South held such views, and why those reasons would not apply to an independent Confederacy.  </p>
<p>The South, in the antebellum period, was vitally concerned to maintain the balance in the U.S. Congress between the number of free states and the number of slave states.  As the Northern population grew much faster than did that of the South, the House of Representatives was dominated early on by the North. Therefore, the South sought to ensure that the balance between free and slave states in the Senate was maintained so as to prevent total Northern domination of Congress. </p>
<p>With the admission of California as a free state as a result of the compromise of 1850, the balance in the Senate was tipped in favor of the North.  Therefore, during the 1850s, we see Southern politicians advocating all sorts of things to restore the balance. That&#8217;s why they supported, for example, the abandonment of the Missouri Compromise and the passage of the Kansas-Nebraska Act, which stated that the issue of slavery in the territories would be settled on the basis of popular sovereignty.  And that&#8217;s also why they supported the acquisition of new territory, south of the border, which would be reserved for slavery. </p>
<p>However, an independent Confederacy would not need to be concerned about the composition of the United States Congress anymore.  The entire reason why expansion was sought by Southern politicians in the 1850s would have simply disappeared. </p>
<p>It is true that the Confederates did intrigue in Northern Mexico during the war, seeking the separation of some of the northern Mexican states from that country.  But there was a separate reason for that which would not apply to expansion to places like Cuba or Brazil, other supposed &#8220;Confederate targets&#8221; cited by Mr. Sass in his article.  The acquisition of the Mexican states of Chihuahua and Sonora would have given the Confederacy a Pacific coast and access to Asian trade markets. The port of Guaymas, in Sonora, was and is one of the finest natural harbors in the world. Confederate control of that harbor would have been highly advantageous to the Confederacy. </p>
<p>If Mr. Sass is going to claim that the Confederacy had some grand plan to conquer Latin America, it would behoove him to cite actual Confederate statements and plans made during the Civil War, and not the statements of Southern politicians before the war.  There is little to no evidence that the Confederacy actually had any plans to expand elsewhere in Latin America, other than in northern Mexico as stated above.  There wouldn&#8217;t have been a reason for that, since, being independent, the Confederacy would no longer have been concerned by the composition of the U.S. Congress.</p>
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		<title>By: Josiah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:19:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rodney C. above hit the nail on the head.

The Civil War, as most wars in history, was fought for the money. Slavery only became an issue about half-way through it when it became politically expedient for Lincoln to abolish it.

Lincoln above all else wished to save the Union. Slavery meant nothing to him.

&quot;My paramount object, is to save the Union, and not either destroy or save slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing the slaves, I would do it. If I could save the Union by freeing some and leaving others in slavery, I would do it. If I could save it by freeing all, I would do that. What I do about slavery and the colored race, I do because it helps save the Union.&quot; -- Abraham Lincoln

I am glad slavery was abolished, but please stop making the mistake of claiming the Civil War was about slavery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rodney C. above hit the nail on the head.</p>
<p>The Civil War, as most wars in history, was fought for the money. Slavery only became an issue about half-way through it when it became politically expedient for Lincoln to abolish it.</p>
<p>Lincoln above all else wished to save the Union. Slavery meant nothing to him.</p>
<p>&#8220;My paramount object, is to save the Union, and not either destroy or save slavery. If I could save the Union without freeing the slaves, I would do it. If I could save the Union by freeing some and leaving others in slavery, I would do it. If I could save it by freeing all, I would do that. What I do about slavery and the colored race, I do because it helps save the Union.&#8221; &#8212; Abraham Lincoln</p>
<p>I am glad slavery was abolished, but please stop making the mistake of claiming the Civil War was about slavery.</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 01:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Racial barriers ending in America will only happen when white supremacy ceases to be economical. Until then, it is business as usual, no matter what comes out of Oprah or Bill Cosby mouth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Racial barriers ending in America will only happen when white supremacy ceases to be economical. Until then, it is business as usual, no matter what comes out of Oprah or Bill Cosby mouth.</p>
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		<title>By: Alec</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/16659/comment-page-1#comment-183860</link>
		<dc:creator>Alec</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something most people forget is Lincoln&#039;s power over the Southern States.

He had none. He was president of the Union, but the Confederate States were a separate country at that point, recognized by others in the world (including the UK and France)This fact sheds light on two points most teachers try to gloss over.
1.) It technically was not a &quot;Civil War&quot; a civil war is a war between two factions within one country. This was a war between two separate countries. &quot;The War Between the States&quot; is the more accurate name. Of course, &quot;The War against Northern Aggression&quot; or &quot;The War against Yankee Oppression&quot; also work ;)
2.)Lincoln was not president of the COnfederacy, so he had no power over the CSA when he made his Emancipation Proclamation. It&#039;s akin to Obama declaring that all British citizens are now Americans. He can say it until he&#039;s blue in the face, but he is completely powerless to make it so, and no one is going to listen.
3.) Something I forgot to list, one would be well advised to look into the events leading up to the attack on Ft. Sumpter. Lincoln was not going to declare war. But he was not against pushing the South into a position where THEY had to fire the first shots. Then he could step in and declare open war. The South wanted to secede without fighting. The Northern forces outnumbered the Southern by a great degree and had all the major manufacturing plants. They were more numerous, and better armed and equipped. Yet the fighting still took 4 years and for a while it looked like the South would win. I</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something most people forget is Lincoln&#8217;s power over the Southern States.</p>
<p>He had none. He was president of the Union, but the Confederate States were a separate country at that point, recognized by others in the world (including the UK and France)This fact sheds light on two points most teachers try to gloss over.<br />
1.) It technically was not a &#8220;Civil War&#8221; a civil war is a war between two factions within one country. This was a war between two separate countries. &#8220;The War Between the States&#8221; is the more accurate name. Of course, &#8220;The War against Northern Aggression&#8221; or &#8220;The War against Yankee Oppression&#8221; also work ;)<br />
2.)Lincoln was not president of the COnfederacy, so he had no power over the CSA when he made his Emancipation Proclamation. It&#8217;s akin to Obama declaring that all British citizens are now Americans. He can say it until he&#8217;s blue in the face, but he is completely powerless to make it so, and no one is going to listen.<br />
3.) Something I forgot to list, one would be well advised to look into the events leading up to the attack on Ft. Sumpter. Lincoln was not going to declare war. But he was not against pushing the South into a position where THEY had to fire the first shots. Then he could step in and declare open war. The South wanted to secede without fighting. The Northern forces outnumbered the Southern by a great degree and had all the major manufacturing plants. They were more numerous, and better armed and equipped. Yet the fighting still took 4 years and for a while it looked like the South would win. I</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes the war was over economic issuses but the root of those economic issues was the difference between the industrial North and agricultural South.  Slavery was a key issue in economic battle.  So while the war was about economics, slavery was a major issue as well.  It is hard to boil the war down to one cause.  It is disengenuous to exclude slavery as a cause because of the importance slavery in the Southern economic structure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes the war was over economic issuses but the root of those economic issues was the difference between the industrial North and agricultural South.  Slavery was a key issue in economic battle.  So while the war was about economics, slavery was a major issue as well.  It is hard to boil the war down to one cause.  It is disengenuous to exclude slavery as a cause because of the importance slavery in the Southern economic structure.</p>
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		<title>By: dale</title>
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		<dc:creator>dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow guys hear what happened the south feared Lincoln would end their way of life he freed the slaves in any states who joined the confederates to help bring blacks into the fighting. ironically the south would of probably kept slavery longer if they had not separated. but thankfully they acted stupidly and allowed this country to join the rest of the civilized world by ending slavery. I think we would of failed in that act long term because the larger your turf the harder it is to keep together just look at the soviet union.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow guys hear what happened the south feared Lincoln would end their way of life he freed the slaves in any states who joined the confederates to help bring blacks into the fighting. ironically the south would of probably kept slavery longer if they had not separated. but thankfully they acted stupidly and allowed this country to join the rest of the civilized world by ending slavery. I think we would of failed in that act long term because the larger your turf the harder it is to keep together just look at the soviet union.</p>
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		<title>By: Debra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 07:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, I&#039;m American of Mexican heritage. It got into slavery because I don&#039;t really remember a lot I learned in school about this but Lincoln gets lots and lots of praise and just wondering if it&#039;s justified. I understand the parts about conquering Latin America- I just figured people could school me on here...
So, Lincoln only freed the southern? How long did it take to free the rest and was that Lincoln? and this is why I brought up slavery up there...there were also Mexican slaves brought over and were used as maids, fruit pickers, landscapers...Conquering Latin America is a fascinating subject to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, I&#8217;m American of Mexican heritage. It got into slavery because I don&#8217;t really remember a lot I learned in school about this but Lincoln gets lots and lots of praise and just wondering if it&#8217;s justified. I understand the parts about conquering Latin America- I just figured people could school me on here&#8230;<br />
So, Lincoln only freed the southern? How long did it take to free the rest and was that Lincoln? and this is why I brought up slavery up there&#8230;there were also Mexican slaves brought over and were used as maids, fruit pickers, landscapers&#8230;Conquering Latin America is a fascinating subject to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Kev in GA</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kev in GA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Bill.  I share your feelings on ending racial barriers.  If we insist on pointing out the differences we never see where we are the same.  There is nothing wrong with being proud of ones heritage but we should be most proud of the fact we are american.  Even with it&#039;s problems, it is still the best nation in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Bill.  I share your feelings on ending racial barriers.  If we insist on pointing out the differences we never see where we are the same.  There is nothing wrong with being proud of ones heritage but we should be most proud of the fact we are american.  Even with it&#8217;s problems, it is still the best nation in the world.</p>
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