Comments on: Born Retired: 4 Famous Figures Who Never Held (Real) Day Jobs

By: Serena

Serena — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 16:52:09 +0000

How is writing not working?

By: Bob

Bob — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 22:18:48 +0000

Don’t forget Obama. Community organize and politician – neither are real jobs.

By: MeNotYou

MeNotYou — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 19:32:40 +0000

Certainly not famous, but my lazy ass brother who is going on 55 has never drawn a W-2 in his life. It’s always some get rich scheme that he thinks about 1/2 way through.

By: Id

Id — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:55:43 +0000

ahem, on the islam topic: read the qur’an. bin laden is NOT following the historical version. he is following portions taken out of context. muhammed had respect for women (they supported him). by the book, the infidels are the pagans, not jews or christians (who are in an outer circle, but are still children of abraham and therefore related). the book does NOT allow for the killing of innocents, does NOT allow for the taking or harming of hostages, says suicides that take other lives are going to hell, etc.

bin laden is not alone; many of the imams in radical sects do the same. but even some salafi and wahabbi (very fundamental traditional sects) acknowledge that the radicals are wrong, that they are violating islam.

these radicals are NOT islam, so there is no culture-judging involved. i have been surrounded by these people. i have worked with the good ones and worked to find the bad ones. appreciating others works two ways. most muslims understand that. bin laden is not one of those.

By: Eric P

Eric P — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 14:14:02 +0000

Actually, I don’t think that it is Bin Laden’s role of women in society and treating others with disrespect that is why he is so reviled. I think it is because he believes the best way to fight for his ideals is to kill innocent men and women. When you think the only way for you to get your point across is to kill everyone who doesn’t agree with you, you are wrong, whether islamic fundamentalist or christian evangelical or whatever your religious or political affliation. I do agree with krustabas that we should take a closer look at another culture before judging it. There is more in common with each other than there is differences. People are people.

By: krustabas

krustabas — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 12:10:07 +0000

\…Sorry, but a radicalized version of Islam that marginalizes women and treats others with impunity doesn’t earn my respect…\

In the same way as you are not respected by them. Or in the same way as I don’t respect christianity (or my neighbour and his dog). Most of us do not respect something and mostly no one is right or innocent, I guess.

Other cultures, religions, their lifestyles, novels, sports – a lot that seems weird or disgusting. But take a closer look and a lot of that will look or understandable.

By: Steve from San Diego

Steve from San Diego — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:02:54 +0000

“He is fighting for a well established and historical version. One that has the respect of many Islamic scholars over the centuries and with many in this day and age.”

Sorry, but a radicalized version of Islam that marginalizes women and treats others with impunity doesn’t earn my respect.

By: lalewis

lalewis — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:07:34 +0000

Socrates had two years militia service as required of all citizens of Athens. When war broke out between Athens and Sparta in 432, Socrates was sent to Potidea to put down a revolt. He served as a hoplite (foot soldier) for the next 11 years, until the Peace of Nicias was declared in 421. I think that most soldiers active during a time of war would consider that a REAL job. This infomation is available in the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy at
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/socrates/.

By: Hurricane

Hurricane — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:10:28 +0000

Hate to rain on anyone’s parade but Osama isn’t “fighting for his own violent version of Islam”. He is fighting for a well established and historical version. One that has the respect of many Islamic scholars over the centuries and with many in this day and age.

To poo-poo it as “Osama’s own” only serves to ignore the reasons why he does what he does and how it can be stopped. You can’t fight what you refuse to understand.

By: Tom

Tom — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:09:18 +0000

Wait a minute! These guys all worked hard, at least as hard as writing a blog! You think that thinking clearly , writing, meditating and running from people who want to kill you (while living in a cave) is not hard work? You try it.