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		<title>By: Halogenica</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/19404/comment-page-1#comment-133148</link>
		<dc:creator>Halogenica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 17:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some corrections on blog entry and comments:

1. CFLs are not &quot;full of mercury&quot;, it&#039;s actually very little per lamp, about 5 mg or less. But many millions added together will still add up to tons of mercury in nature unless recycled correctly. And most CFLs today are still NOT recycled (although awareness is increasing).  

2. I hope stores that accept burned-out CFLs for recycling are aware that mercury vaporises at room temperature, so they make sure that staff or customers don&#039;t break them. (I asked Ikea the other day and they were rather alarmed at this information and promised to look over their recycling routines a s a p.) Next time you deposit one, ask if the CFL will break before chucking it in their recycling bin. 

3. CFLs use many times more energy in production, transport and recycling than incandescent lamps. 

4. They don&#039;t save nearly as much energy as claimed, but closer to that of a good halogen lamp (which contains no mercury and gives the same high quality light as incandescent lamps).

Look at my website for referenced information, check out the sources and do the math yourself. (And no, I&#039;m not selling anything, don&#039;t even have ads, I&#039;m just fed up with all this massive misinformation campaign.) 

Hopefully my fellow idealistic environmentalists will see that they&#039;ve been hoodwinked into acting like a free marketing outlet for the lighting industry, the result of which is likely to cause a global ecological disaster! Please wake up and check who fed you the (mis)information and why, before it&#039;s too late!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some corrections on blog entry and comments:</p>
<p>1. CFLs are not &#8220;full of mercury&#8221;, it&#8217;s actually very little per lamp, about 5 mg or less. But many millions added together will still add up to tons of mercury in nature unless recycled correctly. And most CFLs today are still NOT recycled (although awareness is increasing).  </p>
<p>2. I hope stores that accept burned-out CFLs for recycling are aware that mercury vaporises at room temperature, so they make sure that staff or customers don&#8217;t break them. (I asked Ikea the other day and they were rather alarmed at this information and promised to look over their recycling routines a s a p.) Next time you deposit one, ask if the CFL will break before chucking it in their recycling bin. </p>
<p>3. CFLs use many times more energy in production, transport and recycling than incandescent lamps. </p>
<p>4. They don&#8217;t save nearly as much energy as claimed, but closer to that of a good halogen lamp (which contains no mercury and gives the same high quality light as incandescent lamps).</p>
<p>Look at my website for referenced information, check out the sources and do the math yourself. (And no, I&#8217;m not selling anything, don&#8217;t even have ads, I&#8217;m just fed up with all this massive misinformation campaign.) </p>
<p>Hopefully my fellow idealistic environmentalists will see that they&#8217;ve been hoodwinked into acting like a free marketing outlet for the lighting industry, the result of which is likely to cause a global ecological disaster! Please wake up and check who fed you the (mis)information and why, before it&#8217;s too late!</p>
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		<title>By: Lorelei</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/19404/comment-page-1#comment-103700</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorelei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OMG!  The horror has hit!  If they ban incandescent light bulbs little girls will no longer have easy-bake ovens!  The horror, I know how bad i wanted one, and this means other girls will have a joyless childhood like me!


btw, not sarcasm, I LIKE the easy bake ovens.

and now the catchpa says $500 totalled, is that what I win?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OMG!  The horror has hit!  If they ban incandescent light bulbs little girls will no longer have easy-bake ovens!  The horror, I know how bad i wanted one, and this means other girls will have a joyless childhood like me!</p>
<p>btw, not sarcasm, I LIKE the easy bake ovens.</p>
<p>and now the catchpa says $500 totalled, is that what I win?</p>
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		<title>By: Stew</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/19404/comment-page-1#comment-103592</link>
		<dc:creator>Stew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have replaced many of my bulbs with CFLs.  I noticed the reduction in heat.  
Didn&#039;t notice much electrical savings.  

Many of my fixtures have dimmers or timers, so they can&#039;t readily use CFLs.  I agree with Dan, you can&#039;t count on someone only turning on a dimable CFL at full brightness.  I have a room with 6 dimable floods.  At $10 a pop, each mistake would cost $60.

Also I haven&#039;t found any reasonable candelabra bulbs.  What will people do for their dining room chandeliers?  I also have a number of halogen lamps, that can&#039;t use CFLs.

I figure the cost to replace all my light fixtures, dimmers, timers etc... to be compatible with CFL would cost me in the thousands. (Dining room chandelier, Drop lamp in kitchen, halogens under counter, halogen high hat over kitchen sink, two bathrooms with 9 halogen high hats, sconses over sink in bathroom, halogen living room torch, two outdoor bulbs, outdoor floods on motion sensor, 4 dimmers, 3 timers).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have replaced many of my bulbs with CFLs.  I noticed the reduction in heat.<br />
Didn&#8217;t notice much electrical savings.  </p>
<p>Many of my fixtures have dimmers or timers, so they can&#8217;t readily use CFLs.  I agree with Dan, you can&#8217;t count on someone only turning on a dimable CFL at full brightness.  I have a room with 6 dimable floods.  At $10 a pop, each mistake would cost $60.</p>
<p>Also I haven&#8217;t found any reasonable candelabra bulbs.  What will people do for their dining room chandeliers?  I also have a number of halogen lamps, that can&#8217;t use CFLs.</p>
<p>I figure the cost to replace all my light fixtures, dimmers, timers etc&#8230; to be compatible with CFL would cost me in the thousands. (Dining room chandelier, Drop lamp in kitchen, halogens under counter, halogen high hat over kitchen sink, two bathrooms with 9 halogen high hats, sconses over sink in bathroom, halogen living room torch, two outdoor bulbs, outdoor floods on motion sensor, 4 dimmers, 3 timers).</p>
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		<title>By: Lorelei</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/19404/comment-page-1#comment-103585</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorelei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 14:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few years back when they came out with the true daylight bulbs, I switched every one of my lights.  I can&#039;t stand the yellow glow of the originals, and my daylights are brighter then the old 100 watts my husband preferred.  I have family who always complain my house is too bright, but I pay less for electric then them.  

Rachel, they shouldn&#039;t be blinking.  We have ceiling fans with multiple bulbs in every room except bathroom and laundry room (which both have multiple lights on one fixture) and I never have a problem.  They may not be in tight, or your fixtures are going out.

I know Menards (it&#039;s like home depot  or lowe&#039;s) has CFLs for dimmers now, I haven&#039;t tried them yet.  

I do have a complaint.  We just recently starting replacing all outlets and lights in our house (old house, old fixtures) and I&#039;ve noticed an alarming trend in ceiling fan lights.  They will only fit a bulb with a base the size of a christmas light!  They&#039;re trying to make everyone use fewer watts by forcing them to use chandelier bulbs. Luckily, Westinghouse has a converter so I can use the bulbs I want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few years back when they came out with the true daylight bulbs, I switched every one of my lights.  I can&#8217;t stand the yellow glow of the originals, and my daylights are brighter then the old 100 watts my husband preferred.  I have family who always complain my house is too bright, but I pay less for electric then them.  </p>
<p>Rachel, they shouldn&#8217;t be blinking.  We have ceiling fans with multiple bulbs in every room except bathroom and laundry room (which both have multiple lights on one fixture) and I never have a problem.  They may not be in tight, or your fixtures are going out.</p>
<p>I know Menards (it&#8217;s like home depot  or lowe&#8217;s) has CFLs for dimmers now, I haven&#8217;t tried them yet.  </p>
<p>I do have a complaint.  We just recently starting replacing all outlets and lights in our house (old house, old fixtures) and I&#8217;ve noticed an alarming trend in ceiling fan lights.  They will only fit a bulb with a base the size of a christmas light!  They&#8217;re trying to make everyone use fewer watts by forcing them to use chandelier bulbs. Luckily, Westinghouse has a converter so I can use the bulbs I want.</p>
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		<title>By: Space Cowgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Space Cowgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t wait for LEDs to be more prevalent. They are so much more efficient! Interesting thing about the Edison invention. There&#039;s a place or two that have original bulbs that are still burning bright. They are over one hundred years old! Efficient?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t wait for LEDs to be more prevalent. They are so much more efficient! Interesting thing about the Edison invention. There&#8217;s a place or two that have original bulbs that are still burning bright. They are over one hundred years old! Efficient?</p>
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		<title>By: Harlequin</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/19404/comment-page-1#comment-103506</link>
		<dc:creator>Harlequin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 01:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hate fluorescent light, and CFLs aren&#039;t much better.  I think when the stores run out of incandescent bulbs I&#039;ll just stop using lights at home.  Candles may make a comeback.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hate fluorescent light, and CFLs aren&#8217;t much better.  I think when the stores run out of incandescent bulbs I&#8217;ll just stop using lights at home.  Candles may make a comeback.</p>
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		<title>By: Vickey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 23:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please don&#039;t think I&#039;m stupid, but I don&#039;t understand something..  Now, I realize that mercury is a bad thing, but where does mercury come from, anyway??  Does it not COME FROM somewhere in our environment?  How is it suddenly MORE toxic when we return it to the earth?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please don&#8217;t think I&#8217;m stupid, but I don&#8217;t understand something..  Now, I realize that mercury is a bad thing, but where does mercury come from, anyway??  Does it not COME FROM somewhere in our environment?  How is it suddenly MORE toxic when we return it to the earth?</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, &quot;specialty light bulb stores&quot;.  You have got to be kidding. 

recaptcha:  off elevator  -- the ban people clearly got off their elevator too soon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, &#8220;specialty light bulb stores&#8221;.  You have got to be kidding. </p>
<p>recaptcha:  off elevator  &#8212; the ban people clearly got off their elevator too soon</p>
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		<title>By: S</title>
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		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, going to Home Depot. Buying every incandescent bulb I can find. Also writing a couple letters to my Congress people. 

I will not spend the rest of my life ill-feeling and depressed due to the sickly green-white light CFLs give off. I will not quit reading because CFLs give me headaches with all their damn flickering. I will not stand for it. My lovely warm yellow light will not be taken away from me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, going to Home Depot. Buying every incandescent bulb I can find. Also writing a couple letters to my Congress people. </p>
<p>I will not spend the rest of my life ill-feeling and depressed due to the sickly green-white light CFLs give off. I will not quit reading because CFLs give me headaches with all their damn flickering. I will not stand for it. My lovely warm yellow light will not be taken away from me.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/19404/comment-page-1#comment-103469</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 19:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>gmsc said &quot;They can legislate new technologies into existence!&quot; which made me think back to a few years ago when Congress mandated that all new TV sets include the V-Chip - before the V-Chip had actually been invented. I wonder how much the CFL lobbyists paid for this ban?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>gmsc said &#8220;They can legislate new technologies into existence!&#8221; which made me think back to a few years ago when Congress mandated that all new TV sets include the V-Chip &#8211; before the V-Chip had actually been invented. I wonder how much the CFL lobbyists paid for this ban?</p>
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