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		<title>By: Matt Soniak</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/20735/comment-page-1#comment-420826</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Soniak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 14:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frankie, 

Maybe try reading the whole post before commenting? I know this one was really long (six whole paragraphs! It&#039;s OK to take a break in the middle if you get tired.), but the end of the post may be especially relevant to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankie, </p>
<p>Maybe try reading the whole post before commenting? I know this one was really long (six whole paragraphs! It&#8217;s OK to take a break in the middle if you get tired.), but the end of the post may be especially relevant to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Frankie</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/20735/comment-page-1#comment-420824</link>
		<dc:creator>Frankie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Dec 2010 14:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>False. Only two matching flakes have ever been found - they were collected by a research plane flying over Wisconsin in 1988. It was a discovery so unexpected that it caused a huge furore in snow circles - althought snowflake authority Kenneth G Libbrecht points out that the chances of two flakes being exactly alike at a molecular level are essentialy zero. This is because snowflakes are made of approximately a quintillion (10^18) water molecules that freeze at different rates in different patterns. However flakes fall into broad categories depending on the conditions under which they form.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>False. Only two matching flakes have ever been found &#8211; they were collected by a research plane flying over Wisconsin in 1988. It was a discovery so unexpected that it caused a huge furore in snow circles &#8211; althought snowflake authority Kenneth G Libbrecht points out that the chances of two flakes being exactly alike at a molecular level are essentialy zero. This is because snowflakes are made of approximately a quintillion (10^18) water molecules that freeze at different rates in different patterns. However flakes fall into broad categories depending on the conditions under which they form.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Dec 2008 12:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I assume it is theoretically possbile for two snowflakes to be the same, aslthough I would not like to go look for them.  I also assume it is theoretically possible for two people to have the same left index-finger fingerprint, but I would not like to go look for them either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I assume it is theoretically possbile for two snowflakes to be the same, aslthough I would not like to go look for them.  I also assume it is theoretically possible for two people to have the same left index-finger fingerprint, but I would not like to go look for them either.</p>
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		<title>By: gary</title>
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		<dc:creator>gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 02:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey y&#039;all

Let me try this counter argument that there have been two snowflakes that are exactly the same on a atomic level. 

Suppose there is a mole of atom(10^23) in a millimeter of water and say that this is the size of an average snowflake.  We make the simplifying assumption that the this represents on the order or the number of different atomic configurations.  

The size of antartica is is 14million kilometers.  So if we suppose that it snows once a year covering the area of antartica then you get something on the order 1.4 Ã— 10^19.  Also suppose that the average age of the earth is measured on the order of billions of years.  Add another 9 to the 10^19 and you get 10^28.  Of course the number of combinations of 10^23 is much much bigger.  But we do get close to it.  If you consider the possibility of snow bearing planets you get even closer.

The fact that you get similar configurations on a macroscopic level tends to imply a much smaller search space than is usually assumed.

-opengre</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey y&#8217;all</p>
<p>Let me try this counter argument that there have been two snowflakes that are exactly the same on a atomic level. </p>
<p>Suppose there is a mole of atom(10^23) in a millimeter of water and say that this is the size of an average snowflake.  We make the simplifying assumption that the this represents on the order or the number of different atomic configurations.  </p>
<p>The size of antartica is is 14million kilometers.  So if we suppose that it snows once a year covering the area of antartica then you get something on the order 1.4 Ã— 10^19.  Also suppose that the average age of the earth is measured on the order of billions of years.  Add another 9 to the 10^19 and you get 10^28.  Of course the number of combinations of 10^23 is much much bigger.  But we do get close to it.  If you consider the possibility of snow bearing planets you get even closer.</p>
<p>The fact that you get similar configurations on a macroscopic level tends to imply a much smaller search space than is usually assumed.</p>
<p>-opengre</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 19:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John and Kell have it exactly right. It&#039;s absurd to compare anything at the atomic level. I&#039;d dare say that nothing larger than 1mm cubic volume could ever be exactly alike, man or nature made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John and Kell have it exactly right. It&#8217;s absurd to compare anything at the atomic level. I&#8217;d dare say that nothing larger than 1mm cubic volume could ever be exactly alike, man or nature made.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Acai</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/20735/comment-page-1#comment-111259</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Acai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 11:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think it&#039;s all about chaos theory...no two can be alike!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think it&#8217;s all about chaos theory&#8230;no two can be alike!</p>
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		<title>By: Kell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 10:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, but that just seems a bit silly to point out that any structure, no matter how similar at first glance, is actually constructed differently at an atomic level. I&#039;d be interested in knowing what structures *would* be *exactly* alike, once you take it down to an atomic level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but that just seems a bit silly to point out that any structure, no matter how similar at first glance, is actually constructed differently at an atomic level. I&#8217;d be interested in knowing what structures *would* be *exactly* alike, once you take it down to an atomic level.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 10:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think this is really accurate. True, no snowflake will be identical when comparing them on an atomic level. 

But then, you could say no 2 leaves would ever be identical on the atomic level. Or rocks. Or ice cubes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think this is really accurate. True, no snowflake will be identical when comparing them on an atomic level. </p>
<p>But then, you could say no 2 leaves would ever be identical on the atomic level. Or rocks. Or ice cubes.</p>
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		<title>By: JM</title>
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		<dc:creator>JM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 10:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascinating short article, thank you!

Something I&#039;ve always wondered - when snowflakes with apparent symmetry are studied, is the symmetry perfect all or much of the time? The picture above shows perfectly symmetrical dendrites and sectored plates. I can understand that the physical conditions (temperature, pressure etc) are identical across the snowflake when it is being formed, which might result in uniform growth, but if perfect symmetry of shape is often seen, how does the snowflake &#039;know&#039; what is happening to it as a whole so that it can &#039;make&#039; the growth symmetric? If, as I guess, it doesn&#039;t, are such &#039;perfect&#039; snowflakes the exception rather than the rule? Are snowflakes with fractured symmetry seen?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating short article, thank you!</p>
<p>Something I&#8217;ve always wondered &#8211; when snowflakes with apparent symmetry are studied, is the symmetry perfect all or much of the time? The picture above shows perfectly symmetrical dendrites and sectored plates. I can understand that the physical conditions (temperature, pressure etc) are identical across the snowflake when it is being formed, which might result in uniform growth, but if perfect symmetry of shape is often seen, how does the snowflake &#8216;know&#8217; what is happening to it as a whole so that it can &#8216;make&#8217; the growth symmetric? If, as I guess, it doesn&#8217;t, are such &#8216;perfect&#8217; snowflakes the exception rather than the rule? Are snowflakes with fractured symmetry seen?</p>
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		<title>By: southern california guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>southern california guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 08:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what are snowflakes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what are snowflakes?</p>
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