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		<title>By: phydid</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason that pollution happens on this kind of scale is just apathy about life in general. Destroy the future for a pleasant present. The tyrants that wrecked these places did so in order to make good lives for themselves. But the future ever bleaker for the next gen. The cylce will continue until its no longer an effective way to make money. There will always be a country willing to sacrfice its people in order to in rich its rulers. There will always be businesses that have no problem making money on death.  Sometimes i regret fathering children because i don&#039;t want them to inherit our mistakes and the misery that those mistakes will bring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason that pollution happens on this kind of scale is just apathy about life in general. Destroy the future for a pleasant present. The tyrants that wrecked these places did so in order to make good lives for themselves. But the future ever bleaker for the next gen. The cylce will continue until its no longer an effective way to make money. There will always be a country willing to sacrfice its people in order to in rich its rulers. There will always be businesses that have no problem making money on death.  Sometimes i regret fathering children because i don&#8217;t want them to inherit our mistakes and the misery that those mistakes will bring.</p>
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		<title>By: Godofredo Arauzo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Godofredo Arauzo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CONFIRMED. The Oroya PERÚ the city most polluted of the world.

Dr. Godofredo Arauzo 

Blacksmith Institute visited the Oroya city in May 2008. The observations about the achievements in the pollution by this metallurgic complex, according to statements of The Inter American Association for the Defense of the Environment (AIDA) by its name in Spanish.are DECEIVING, because such statements have no basis; is a summary presented by Doe Run. AIDA sustain that the environmental quality and the fulfillment or the degree of protection for human health of the Oroya city can not be evaluated based on the quantity of investment made by the company but it should be done based on the current data about the quality of air, lead level in the blood and another environmental and health indicators, that the report does not take into account (1).
Critic that Blacksmith is based on limited datum in order to evaluate, for example, the sulphur bioxide (SO2) level in the zone. Blacksmith Institute affirms that the SO2 concentration in the Oroya city has a day time average of 5.000 ug/m3 (maximum allowed is 13 ug/m3) (CDC); but during the day that Blacksmith was in the Oroya, the SO2 concentration was 0.(1)
Finally AIDA concludes that the Blacksmith report undermines the efforts to really reach the remediation and cleaning of Oroya city (1)
AIDA express too that the quality of air in the Oroya has deteriorated seriously after the metallurgic complex came into Doe Run’s hands. Doe Run itself said that the lead concentration raised to 1.163%, the arsenic to 606% and the cadmium to 1990% (2). The concentrations of lead, cadmium, arsenic, sulphur dioxide and others have substantially increased since 1997, mainly due to the increasing of production; for example, the lead production raised 25% (3). The inhabitants of  Oroya city are contaminated by a toxic cocktail (4); it is a living laboratory.  
The cadmium concentration (Cd) raised dramatically since the acquisition of the complex by Doe Run. In 1999 the Cd concentration was 0.22 ug/m3 in the Syndicate (the level allowed was 0.0055 ug/m3); it surpassed by more than 40 times the frontier and did not inform anymore to the Ministry for Mines and Energy (MEM) since year 2000; in the same way, the arsenic concentration soared meaningly since 1997. There is not monitoring of particulate material smaller than 2.5 micra (PM 2.5), that are the most dangerous to human health and move easily. Ceverstav says that the parameters of air quality have been deteriorated dramatically after Doe Run have in charge of the complex (5)
The Environment Protection Agency of USA (EPA), has 1467 chemical compounds registered as the most harmful and the sulphur dioxide (SO2) is ranking number 16 in dangerousness (6). Cevestav showed based on the same figures that Doe Run sends to MEM every 3 months, that SO2 emission had incremented in more than 200% since Doe Run  has  in charge the complex (5).
Blacksmith affirms that the SO2 concentration in the Oroya is in average 5,000 ug/m3 (1); another author reports that this average is 934 ug/m3 (2); the level allowed is 13 ug/m3  (7).  The day time concentration is higher between 8 am and 5 pm and it reaches a peak of 2,100 ppb (the allowed value is 280 ppb) (5). In August 13. 2008 the SO2 concentration arrived to an historic and horrifying limit: 27,000 ug/m3 (8-9-10) (the allowed figure is 13 ug/m3 (7).  
 Another heavy metals and highly toxic compounds are not analysed in the Oroya: vanadium, uranium, mercury, antimony, barium, selenium, chromium, cobalt, molybdenum, nickel, and aluminum (2). The inhabitants of the Oroya are contaminated, not only with lead but too with cadmium, arsenic, sulphur dioxide, and antimony, as well; the antimony concentration is 30 times higher than in USA (11): .  
There has not been any decrease in the air concentration of lead in the last 5 years in the Oroya; in Huanchan such concentration is above 15 times the level permitted; in the months of January and February 2007 it was an excess of 245% above the allowed level in Huanchan station; in 2006 the cadmium concentration exceeded 48 times the levels allowed by the WHO (12): lead production increased by 25% (2). 
Doe Run monitors only specific sources; it does not monitor the toxic agents that are emitted through the 95 small chimneys neither it monitors  to the  deposits of concentrateds and deposits to arsenic of Vados and Malpaso, as it does not monitor either the elimination coming from the industrial incinerator and the cock plant that was emitting 23,800  meters cubits per day of toxic gases (PAMA).
 Doe Run explained that the pollution of the Oroya had diminished; one attendant person spitted that the pollution has increased; the lecturer answered: show me a document about your statement and the person replied: the best document who I count of is my contaminated body’ (4).
The SO2 emissions from the cooper Peruvian smelting are among the production sources of the highest sulphur dioxide concentration in the world and they are also among the most contaminated production sources in the world (13).
There is not concrete information about the quality control systems to the sampling and to the analysis of the monitoring procedure used by the company; we are not certain about the accuracy, confidentiality and suitable of the information reported to MEM; the figures reported to MEM could be considered as an approximation and are under valuated and  they are not in electronic neither in graphic form (5). 
The contamination generated in La Oroya is not only limited to this city, but it also pollutes distant areas like Concepcion, 100 km far away of Oroya: University of Missouri found lead in the blood of children with ages 0 to 6 years: 20 to 44 ug/dl in the 72.22% ; 10 to 19 ug/dl in the 16.67%; 45 to 69 ug/dl in the 8.33% and less than 10 ug/dl in the 2.78%; it means that the 97.22% of the children of the city of Conception are contaminated with more than 10 ug/dl of lead in their blood; the amount permitted was 10 ug/dl; but, at present the Academy of Paediatrics of USA says that the maximum allowed is 0 ug/dl of lead in the blood (14). In  the rural zone near the Oroya, Cuchimachay there is an amount of 59.26 ppm (the allowed level being 3 ppm) of cadmium in the soil; there is no vegetal cap in this place (15). 
The metallurgic complex of  Oroya has 37 liquid flows that go to the Mantaro river; Doe Run monitors only 12. The rules of the Peruvian state about monitoring of the quality of water in the mining works state that all the liquid discharges that go to surface waters must be constantly monitored (5-16).
The 2006, 26 July Doe Run obtained the ISO 14001:2004 certificate (17) and the 2008, 11 March was removed because the company did not fulfull the Peruvian environmental laws, and did not have appropriate measures for preventing the pollution (18).
Doe Run the 2007 commited 4 heavy  and 1 simple violence environment that the Peruvian state had to put to Doe Run a fine to $ 724,500 (The Comercio 08. 20-12)  
In Huancayo, 120 km far away from La Oroya there is jurisprudence. In 1942 the Judiciary Power orders to the Cerro de Pasco Copper Corporation, owner of Oroya at that time, to pay a compensation of  $ 200,000 to Bazo Velarde, because of the harms caused to the Jatunhuasi Livestock, by the smokes of  the Oroya (19).
The Judiciary Power (20), the Constitutional Court (21) and the Inter American Commission for Human Rights (CIDH, for its name in Spanish) (22), demanded that the Peruvian state to be aware about the health of the inhabitants of Oroya..
Oroya pollutes the surface and deep waters, the soil, the air, and generates acid rain (23), factors that cause damages to human and animal health, the ecosystems and biodiversity, in a way greatly irreversible.  The smokes of the Oroya have affected 700,000 hectares around the Oroya (2-24).
Doe Run will reduce its contamination in two circumstances: when it uses up to date technology as put in practice in Herculeanum, or when it reduces the refining tons. The Trial plant, in Canada, decreased in 25% the lead concentration in the children blood, and reduced the concentration of heavy metals in the air in more than 75%, by the use of clean technology; in the Paso when the foundry was closed, the lead concentration in the air decreased immediately and the lead concentration in the children’s blood plummeted by more than 75%; in Torreón Mexico, the government ordered to refine only a 50%, and similar effects were obtained (5). The damages must be paid by Doe Run according to the world consensus THE THAT POLLUTE PAY, set in practice in Europe since 1972 (25); the way as it does in Herculaneum can reply these actions in Oroya city (2-27).
.The 2008 August 13  Oroya city has been confirmed as the most polluted city to the world. This day the SO2 concentration in air in the Oroya reached an historical and horrifying level: as journal The Comercio said (8); it arrive 27,000 ug/m3; while the allowed level was 13 ug/m3 (7) and the device that measured the concentration got to its maximum limit probably if the device had had more space in its scale that figure would have been higher (8-9-10), but when Blacksmith was visiting the Oroya the SO2 concentration in air was 0 (zero) (1). Some other figures confirm that  Oroya is the most polluted city on the earth: according the report Mantaro Revive 2007: in the Ancienty Oroya  has a soil concentration of 4713 ppm of arsenic (As) while the allowed amount is 12 ppm, and the cadmium (Cd) has 193.87 ppm while the permitted amount is 14 ppm, according to the Canadian Environmental Quality Guidelines (28).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CONFIRMED. The Oroya PERÚ the city most polluted of the world.</p>
<p>Dr. Godofredo Arauzo </p>
<p>Blacksmith Institute visited the Oroya city in May 2008. The observations about the achievements in the pollution by this metallurgic complex, according to statements of The Inter American Association for the Defense of the Environment (AIDA) by its name in Spanish.are DECEIVING, because such statements have no basis; is a summary presented by Doe Run. AIDA sustain that the environmental quality and the fulfillment or the degree of protection for human health of the Oroya city can not be evaluated based on the quantity of investment made by the company but it should be done based on the current data about the quality of air, lead level in the blood and another environmental and health indicators, that the report does not take into account (1).<br />
Critic that Blacksmith is based on limited datum in order to evaluate, for example, the sulphur bioxide (SO2) level in the zone. Blacksmith Institute affirms that the SO2 concentration in the Oroya city has a day time average of 5.000 ug/m3 (maximum allowed is 13 ug/m3) (CDC); but during the day that Blacksmith was in the Oroya, the SO2 concentration was 0.(1)<br />
Finally AIDA concludes that the Blacksmith report undermines the efforts to really reach the remediation and cleaning of Oroya city (1)<br />
AIDA express too that the quality of air in the Oroya has deteriorated seriously after the metallurgic complex came into Doe Run’s hands. Doe Run itself said that the lead concentration raised to 1.163%, the arsenic to 606% and the cadmium to 1990% (2). The concentrations of lead, cadmium, arsenic, sulphur dioxide and others have substantially increased since 1997, mainly due to the increasing of production; for example, the lead production raised 25% (3). The inhabitants of  Oroya city are contaminated by a toxic cocktail (4); it is a living laboratory.<br />
The cadmium concentration (Cd) raised dramatically since the acquisition of the complex by Doe Run. In 1999 the Cd concentration was 0.22 ug/m3 in the Syndicate (the level allowed was 0.0055 ug/m3); it surpassed by more than 40 times the frontier and did not inform anymore to the Ministry for Mines and Energy (MEM) since year 2000; in the same way, the arsenic concentration soared meaningly since 1997. There is not monitoring of particulate material smaller than 2.5 micra (PM 2.5), that are the most dangerous to human health and move easily. Ceverstav says that the parameters of air quality have been deteriorated dramatically after Doe Run have in charge of the complex (5)<br />
The Environment Protection Agency of USA (EPA), has 1467 chemical compounds registered as the most harmful and the sulphur dioxide (SO2) is ranking number 16 in dangerousness (6). Cevestav showed based on the same figures that Doe Run sends to MEM every 3 months, that SO2 emission had incremented in more than 200% since Doe Run  has  in charge the complex (5).<br />
Blacksmith affirms that the SO2 concentration in the Oroya is in average 5,000 ug/m3 (1); another author reports that this average is 934 ug/m3 (2); the level allowed is 13 ug/m3  (7).  The day time concentration is higher between 8 am and 5 pm and it reaches a peak of 2,100 ppb (the allowed value is 280 ppb) (5). In August 13. 2008 the SO2 concentration arrived to an historic and horrifying limit: 27,000 ug/m3 (8-9-10) (the allowed figure is 13 ug/m3 (7).<br />
 Another heavy metals and highly toxic compounds are not analysed in the Oroya: vanadium, uranium, mercury, antimony, barium, selenium, chromium, cobalt, molybdenum, nickel, and aluminum (2). The inhabitants of the Oroya are contaminated, not only with lead but too with cadmium, arsenic, sulphur dioxide, and antimony, as well; the antimony concentration is 30 times higher than in USA (11): .<br />
There has not been any decrease in the air concentration of lead in the last 5 years in the Oroya; in Huanchan such concentration is above 15 times the level permitted; in the months of January and February 2007 it was an excess of 245% above the allowed level in Huanchan station; in 2006 the cadmium concentration exceeded 48 times the levels allowed by the WHO (12): lead production increased by 25% (2).<br />
Doe Run monitors only specific sources; it does not monitor the toxic agents that are emitted through the 95 small chimneys neither it monitors  to the  deposits of concentrateds and deposits to arsenic of Vados and Malpaso, as it does not monitor either the elimination coming from the industrial incinerator and the cock plant that was emitting 23,800  meters cubits per day of toxic gases (PAMA).<br />
 Doe Run explained that the pollution of the Oroya had diminished; one attendant person spitted that the pollution has increased; the lecturer answered: show me a document about your statement and the person replied: the best document who I count of is my contaminated body’ (4).<br />
The SO2 emissions from the cooper Peruvian smelting are among the production sources of the highest sulphur dioxide concentration in the world and they are also among the most contaminated production sources in the world (13).<br />
There is not concrete information about the quality control systems to the sampling and to the analysis of the monitoring procedure used by the company; we are not certain about the accuracy, confidentiality and suitable of the information reported to MEM; the figures reported to MEM could be considered as an approximation and are under valuated and  they are not in electronic neither in graphic form (5).<br />
The contamination generated in La Oroya is not only limited to this city, but it also pollutes distant areas like Concepcion, 100 km far away of Oroya: University of Missouri found lead in the blood of children with ages 0 to 6 years: 20 to 44 ug/dl in the 72.22% ; 10 to 19 ug/dl in the 16.67%; 45 to 69 ug/dl in the 8.33% and less than 10 ug/dl in the 2.78%; it means that the 97.22% of the children of the city of Conception are contaminated with more than 10 ug/dl of lead in their blood; the amount permitted was 10 ug/dl; but, at present the Academy of Paediatrics of USA says that the maximum allowed is 0 ug/dl of lead in the blood (14). In  the rural zone near the Oroya, Cuchimachay there is an amount of 59.26 ppm (the allowed level being 3 ppm) of cadmium in the soil; there is no vegetal cap in this place (15).<br />
The metallurgic complex of  Oroya has 37 liquid flows that go to the Mantaro river; Doe Run monitors only 12. The rules of the Peruvian state about monitoring of the quality of water in the mining works state that all the liquid discharges that go to surface waters must be constantly monitored (5-16).<br />
The 2006, 26 July Doe Run obtained the ISO 14001:2004 certificate (17) and the 2008, 11 March was removed because the company did not fulfull the Peruvian environmental laws, and did not have appropriate measures for preventing the pollution (18).<br />
Doe Run the 2007 commited 4 heavy  and 1 simple violence environment that the Peruvian state had to put to Doe Run a fine to $ 724,500 (The Comercio 08. 20-12)<br />
In Huancayo, 120 km far away from La Oroya there is jurisprudence. In 1942 the Judiciary Power orders to the Cerro de Pasco Copper Corporation, owner of Oroya at that time, to pay a compensation of  $ 200,000 to Bazo Velarde, because of the harms caused to the Jatunhuasi Livestock, by the smokes of  the Oroya (19).<br />
The Judiciary Power (20), the Constitutional Court (21) and the Inter American Commission for Human Rights (CIDH, for its name in Spanish) (22), demanded that the Peruvian state to be aware about the health of the inhabitants of Oroya..<br />
Oroya pollutes the surface and deep waters, the soil, the air, and generates acid rain (23), factors that cause damages to human and animal health, the ecosystems and biodiversity, in a way greatly irreversible.  The smokes of the Oroya have affected 700,000 hectares around the Oroya (2-24).<br />
Doe Run will reduce its contamination in two circumstances: when it uses up to date technology as put in practice in Herculeanum, or when it reduces the refining tons. The Trial plant, in Canada, decreased in 25% the lead concentration in the children blood, and reduced the concentration of heavy metals in the air in more than 75%, by the use of clean technology; in the Paso when the foundry was closed, the lead concentration in the air decreased immediately and the lead concentration in the children’s blood plummeted by more than 75%; in Torreón Mexico, the government ordered to refine only a 50%, and similar effects were obtained (5). The damages must be paid by Doe Run according to the world consensus THE THAT POLLUTE PAY, set in practice in Europe since 1972 (25); the way as it does in Herculaneum can reply these actions in Oroya city (2-27).<br />
.The 2008 August 13  Oroya city has been confirmed as the most polluted city to the world. This day the SO2 concentration in air in the Oroya reached an historical and horrifying level: as journal The Comercio said (8); it arrive 27,000 ug/m3; while the allowed level was 13 ug/m3 (7) and the device that measured the concentration got to its maximum limit probably if the device had had more space in its scale that figure would have been higher (8-9-10), but when Blacksmith was visiting the Oroya the SO2 concentration in air was 0 (zero) (1). Some other figures confirm that  Oroya is the most polluted city on the earth: according the report Mantaro Revive 2007: in the Ancienty Oroya  has a soil concentration of 4713 ppm of arsenic (As) while the allowed amount is 12 ppm, and the cadmium (Cd) has 193.87 ppm while the permitted amount is 14 ppm, according to the Canadian Environmental Quality Guidelines (28).</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 12:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gotta love how America comes into this coversation even though America is not even close to the pollutants of these Asian and Eastern European countries. Get over it and stop blaming American for all your problems especially since its not in vogue anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotta love how America comes into this coversation even though America is not even close to the pollutants of these Asian and Eastern European countries. Get over it and stop blaming American for all your problems especially since its not in vogue anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: BayonneDude</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my word..the USA is far from the most ignorant of countries, having been to a few. Like all countries, we too have our share of religious fanatics.

But who can honestly answer these?!?

How many life forms have been living within the most radioactive parts of Chernobyl?

-and-

Which country has been expending the most most nuclear waste as bullets and war heads?

Answer these, and I&#039;ll have found a person with whom I can have a serious discussion.

Otherwise, I&#039;d just be wasting my time with the uninformed or religiously blinded.

Enjoy life and make the world a better place to what ever extent you can!

Create and enjoy peace!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my word..the USA is far from the most ignorant of countries, having been to a few. Like all countries, we too have our share of religious fanatics.</p>
<p>But who can honestly answer these?!?</p>
<p>How many life forms have been living within the most radioactive parts of Chernobyl?</p>
<p>-and-</p>
<p>Which country has been expending the most most nuclear waste as bullets and war heads?</p>
<p>Answer these, and I&#8217;ll have found a person with whom I can have a serious discussion.</p>
<p>Otherwise, I&#8217;d just be wasting my time with the uninformed or religiously blinded.</p>
<p>Enjoy life and make the world a better place to what ever extent you can!</p>
<p>Create and enjoy peace!</p>
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		<title>By: modest mensa</title>
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		<dc:creator>modest mensa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>blog, blog, blog, blog, blog! I really get a laugh when I read these things because 98.6 of them are so normal. 1.4 have something really interesting to share, without the need to mock others, and make themselves feel good at the belittling of others. I have found that there is always someone who is a bit more informed, or a bit more experienced, a bit more... than I. Very little is truly objective; therefore, the rest must be subjective, and as such, it comes down to one&#039;s opinion, which we all have, and we all know what they are like, don&#039;t we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>blog, blog, blog, blog, blog! I really get a laugh when I read these things because 98.6 of them are so normal. 1.4 have something really interesting to share, without the need to mock others, and make themselves feel good at the belittling of others. I have found that there is always someone who is a bit more informed, or a bit more experienced, a bit more&#8230; than I. Very little is truly objective; therefore, the rest must be subjective, and as such, it comes down to one&#8217;s opinion, which we all have, and we all know what they are like, don&#8217;t we?</p>
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		<title>By: Barfup Obama</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 16:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IS IT A CRIME IN AMERICA TO EXPRESS AN OPINION?  They forgot how filthy Chicago is.  The whole city is disgustingly smelly and the Chicago pollution causes OZONE ACTION alerts up and down the Lake Michigan coasts during hot summer weather, Chicago pollution as far as 200 miles from Chicago!!  The kids eat and breathe their Chicago pollution: 85% of inner city kids in the City of Chicago drop out of High School even though the school system gets 27% more money per student than the national average. The entire Chicago area ought to be leveled and the land returned back to nature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IS IT A CRIME IN AMERICA TO EXPRESS AN OPINION?  They forgot how filthy Chicago is.  The whole city is disgustingly smelly and the Chicago pollution causes OZONE ACTION alerts up and down the Lake Michigan coasts during hot summer weather, Chicago pollution as far as 200 miles from Chicago!!  The kids eat and breathe their Chicago pollution: 85% of inner city kids in the City of Chicago drop out of High School even though the school system gets 27% more money per student than the national average. The entire Chicago area ought to be leveled and the land returned back to nature.</p>
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		<title>By: digibot</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Oct 2009 18:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who said the U.S. was going to pay to clean up other country&#039;s messes? We already pay our fair share of the cost of polluting them.
     Hey realist, I&#039;d love to start making some of the changes you suggest, but people like you always stand in the way. (Keep it up and we will go back to the stone ages, or at least your great grandchildren will. But they’ll just have to suck it up themselves right?)
     I always try to buy local, but why can&#039;t the U.S. produce a car that can go a year or two without breaking down, or one that beats my (at least assembled in America) Toyota Corolla&#039;s 38mpg? I thought we could do anything???
     I&#039;m out of work also because of the economy, but I guess that’s the cost of  a couple of lousy wars. One screwed up in the first years, and one we were lied into. Did we really think they wouldn’t cost anything??? I sure would’ve liked to have spent that money here in the U.S. for say, alternative energy development. Both parties are to blame. Although, it really falls at the feet of those in power at the time…
     Please let Wal-Mart disappear, I don’t shop there. It won’t bother me, besides everything they stock is cheap crap that never lasts. Oh, and they censor books,  music, and movies. When you can only buy from Wal-Mart, and there are no longer other options, then you’ll see just how much they really love and care about you. 
A good portion of every U.S. Dollar you spend at Sprawl-Mart goes right in the Socialist Bank of China. Cha-ching! They import much more than half their merchandise from China. Keep shopping there patriots.

     Hey Jean84, you’ve probably had fluorescent bulbs in your kitchen or bathroom for years. Say, maybe you’ve already dropped too many.

     Hey Don, India’s socialist? Since when?

     Hey Adam Chicago, Democracy and capitalism don’t go hand in hand. Look back at the history of this country in the late 1800’s and early 1900’s, then you’ll see the kind of greed and corruption rampant, unchecked capitalism breeds. I think we wrongly see everything in black or white, when actually a hybrid, if I may, of the two is the way to go. All of one or all of the other is a bad deal for the average Joe. There has to be a happy medium. Please enlighten me as to how we are so socialist now? I’m listening? Is the government requiring you to buy a car from G.M.? Are seniors required by the government to use Medicare? I’m listening…

 Oh, and finally, I can name a country as big as the U.S. that is cleaner. It’s called Canada. But NAFTA is already changing that. Thar she blows!!! Oil!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who said the U.S. was going to pay to clean up other country&#8217;s messes? We already pay our fair share of the cost of polluting them.<br />
     Hey realist, I&#8217;d love to start making some of the changes you suggest, but people like you always stand in the way. (Keep it up and we will go back to the stone ages, or at least your great grandchildren will. But they’ll just have to suck it up themselves right?)<br />
     I always try to buy local, but why can&#8217;t the U.S. produce a car that can go a year or two without breaking down, or one that beats my (at least assembled in America) Toyota Corolla&#8217;s 38mpg? I thought we could do anything???<br />
     I&#8217;m out of work also because of the economy, but I guess that’s the cost of  a couple of lousy wars. One screwed up in the first years, and one we were lied into. Did we really think they wouldn’t cost anything??? I sure would’ve liked to have spent that money here in the U.S. for say, alternative energy development. Both parties are to blame. Although, it really falls at the feet of those in power at the time…<br />
     Please let Wal-Mart disappear, I don’t shop there. It won’t bother me, besides everything they stock is cheap crap that never lasts. Oh, and they censor books,  music, and movies. When you can only buy from Wal-Mart, and there are no longer other options, then you’ll see just how much they really love and care about you.<br />
A good portion of every U.S. Dollar you spend at Sprawl-Mart goes right in the Socialist Bank of China. Cha-ching! They import much more than half their merchandise from China. Keep shopping there patriots.</p>
<p>     Hey Jean84, you’ve probably had fluorescent bulbs in your kitchen or bathroom for years. Say, maybe you’ve already dropped too many.</p>
<p>     Hey Don, India’s socialist? Since when?</p>
<p>     Hey Adam Chicago, Democracy and capitalism don’t go hand in hand. Look back at the history of this country in the late 1800’s and early 1900’s, then you’ll see the kind of greed and corruption rampant, unchecked capitalism breeds. I think we wrongly see everything in black or white, when actually a hybrid, if I may, of the two is the way to go. All of one or all of the other is a bad deal for the average Joe. There has to be a happy medium. Please enlighten me as to how we are so socialist now? I’m listening? Is the government requiring you to buy a car from G.M.? Are seniors required by the government to use Medicare? I’m listening…</p>
<p> Oh, and finally, I can name a country as big as the U.S. that is cleaner. It’s called Canada. But NAFTA is already changing that. Thar she blows!!! Oil!!!</p>
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		<title>By: LTZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>LTZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I might agree with you about all of us helping to clean these messes up, BUT, how many countries add cahs to our superfund cleanup or help to clean up messes in the USA. 
 It always seems we are the one&#039;s at fault no matter what. 
 Screw that, take care of your own country, unless we nuke it, but that is another list!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I might agree with you about all of us helping to clean these messes up, BUT, how many countries add cahs to our superfund cleanup or help to clean up messes in the USA.<br />
 It always seems we are the one&#8217;s at fault no matter what.<br />
 Screw that, take care of your own country, unless we nuke it, but that is another list!</p>
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		<title>By: joe dude</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/2435/comment-page-1#comment-203380</link>
		<dc:creator>joe dude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of history repeating itself, this is starting to look like Red Scare 2.0 to me. How long before you start turning in your &quot;socialist&quot; neighbors?

Too many morons who have no clue about what socialism is all about...but they&#039;re sure quick to use it as a synonym for social ills and regurgitate their tired Fox News babble...meh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of history repeating itself, this is starting to look like Red Scare 2.0 to me. How long before you start turning in your &#8220;socialist&#8221; neighbors?</p>
<p>Too many morons who have no clue about what socialism is all about&#8230;but they&#8217;re sure quick to use it as a synonym for social ills and regurgitate their tired Fox News babble&#8230;meh.</p>
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		<title>By: Guroplanet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guroplanet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Response to Positive attitude
Please note, that for the intelligent who use that intelligence constructively, there is an enormous difference between criticism and complaining/moaning/whining/mewling,] is that most of us have never lived outside our own county, nor travelled far nor lived anywhere else, and so naturally they think they live in THE CENTER of the world. One term for this is ‘provincial ignorance’; another is ‘paranoid recluse’. Case in point iolo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Response to Positive attitude<br />
Please note, that for the intelligent who use that intelligence constructively, there is an enormous difference between criticism and complaining/moaning/whining/mewling,] is that most of us have never lived outside our own county, nor travelled far nor lived anywhere else, and so naturally they think they live in THE CENTER of the world. One term for this is ‘provincial ignorance’; another is ‘paranoid recluse’. Case in point iolo.</p>
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