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		<title>By: Norman Kongakwest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Norman Kongakwest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 05:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No mention of a struggling destitute Dylan taken in by a good Samaritan friend.  He repaid this guy by running off with this guy&#039;s full collection of Woody Guthrie albums that had been this guy&#039;s holy grail in life.
This guy went after him and eventually got them back.

Was Dylan ever punished for this?  I think not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No mention of a struggling destitute Dylan taken in by a good Samaritan friend.  He repaid this guy by running off with this guy&#8217;s full collection of Woody Guthrie albums that had been this guy&#8217;s holy grail in life.<br />
This guy went after him and eventually got them back.</p>
<p>Was Dylan ever punished for this?  I think not.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 04:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a lot of comparing current day with bygone days of folk culture when a artists freely exchanged ideas without fear of litigation.

I once lamented the same thing...until I saw the dividing line between community and commerce.

Before record sales became a global industry, a singer&#039;s livelihood was in public performance, not royalties on intellectual property. Singers worked for venues by the sweat of their brow, or some in community gatherings by donation. As hard-earned popularity increased, so would the size of the venue, the crowd &amp; the financial reward. They capitalized not on song ownership but on hard work, like any business.

This is still the way real musicians work today - Bob Dylan would be a very rich man even if he never received a single royalty cheque - because of his incredible work ethic in touring.

Upon being successfully sued by Willie Dixon for ripping off his songs, Led Zeppelin retorted that they just wanted to be like the old blues artists who freely exchanged material - all the while cashing in on lucrative record sales! Thus it is hypocrisy to benefit in commerce from freedoms exclusive to community.

The great news for un-greedy songwriters is that community is as alive today as it ever was. Every shmuck with a guitar is uploading his version of Brown Eyed Girl to Youtube without fear of law suits - some just for fun, others as a tool for their small entertainment business; others still, like Pomplamoose, attracting over 70,000 subscribers - freely distributing versions of known songs increases their popularity but not their bank account (leading to big sales of originals). The low cost of technology is allowing award-winning albums to be produced in lounge rooms!

In short, you only have to fear copyright laws if you intend to make money from copyright laws. 

And if you want to line your pockets with the value of ideas, what&#039;s wrong with sharing the paycheck with the rightful originators of those ideas? I am a professional songwriter and I practise this fairly. I recently leased the rights to a tune a friend and I had fiddled on years earlier. He was elated when I surprised him with a thousand dollar cheque for his quarter share.

Let&#039;s not forget that a musician&#039;s main source of income is performing. Intellectual ownership (a concept I struggle with, ironically) is a relatively new one. I for one am keen to explore this curious new portal that the internet has opened up back into the ancient folk ethic of freely exchangeable music. In my mind, community is as far above commerce as God is above mammon. Davo  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a lot of comparing current day with bygone days of folk culture when a artists freely exchanged ideas without fear of litigation.</p>
<p>I once lamented the same thing&#8230;until I saw the dividing line between community and commerce.</p>
<p>Before record sales became a global industry, a singer&#8217;s livelihood was in public performance, not royalties on intellectual property. Singers worked for venues by the sweat of their brow, or some in community gatherings by donation. As hard-earned popularity increased, so would the size of the venue, the crowd &amp; the financial reward. They capitalized not on song ownership but on hard work, like any business.</p>
<p>This is still the way real musicians work today &#8211; Bob Dylan would be a very rich man even if he never received a single royalty cheque &#8211; because of his incredible work ethic in touring.</p>
<p>Upon being successfully sued by Willie Dixon for ripping off his songs, Led Zeppelin retorted that they just wanted to be like the old blues artists who freely exchanged material &#8211; all the while cashing in on lucrative record sales! Thus it is hypocrisy to benefit in commerce from freedoms exclusive to community.</p>
<p>The great news for un-greedy songwriters is that community is as alive today as it ever was. Every shmuck with a guitar is uploading his version of Brown Eyed Girl to Youtube without fear of law suits &#8211; some just for fun, others as a tool for their small entertainment business; others still, like Pomplamoose, attracting over 70,000 subscribers &#8211; freely distributing versions of known songs increases their popularity but not their bank account (leading to big sales of originals). The low cost of technology is allowing award-winning albums to be produced in lounge rooms!</p>
<p>In short, you only have to fear copyright laws if you intend to make money from copyright laws. </p>
<p>And if you want to line your pockets with the value of ideas, what&#8217;s wrong with sharing the paycheck with the rightful originators of those ideas? I am a professional songwriter and I practise this fairly. I recently leased the rights to a tune a friend and I had fiddled on years earlier. He was elated when I surprised him with a thousand dollar cheque for his quarter share.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s not forget that a musician&#8217;s main source of income is performing. Intellectual ownership (a concept I struggle with, ironically) is a relatively new one. I for one am keen to explore this curious new portal that the internet has opened up back into the ancient folk ethic of freely exchangeable music. In my mind, community is as far above commerce as God is above mammon. Davo  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Davo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Mar 2010 02:36:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Silly humans and their endless squabbling over &#039;ownership&#039;!

What if Jesus comes back sues the ass off EVERYBODY!!!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silly humans and their endless squabbling over &#8216;ownership&#8217;!</p>
<p>What if Jesus comes back sues the ass off EVERYBODY!!!  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Koah</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/26117/comment-page-1#comment-248225</link>
		<dc:creator>Koah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 10:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is that in the constitution? It&#039;s not in the article that grants all the powers to congress, like I would have expected. Where else would it be?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is that in the constitution? It&#8217;s not in the article that grants all the powers to congress, like I would have expected. Where else would it be?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Frankel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Frankel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jul 2009 20:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob Dylan Sued Over Dignity For Plagiarism

Camden NJ June 2, 2009 -Few artists can lay claim to the controversy that has surrounded the career of songwriter James Damiano. Twenty-two years ago James Damiano began an odyssey that led him into a legal maelstrom with Bob Dylan that, to this day, fascinates the greatest of intellectual minds.

As the curtain rises on the stage of deceit we learn that CBS used songs and
lyrics for international recording artist, Bob Dylan. Bob Dylan&#039;s name is credited to the songs. One of those songs is nominated for a Grammy as best rock song of the year. Ironically the title of that song is Dignity.

Since auditioning for the legendary CBS Record producer John Hammond, Sr., who influenced the careers of music industry icons Billy Holiday, Bob Dylan, Pete Seger, Bruce Springsteen and Stevie Ray Vaughan, James has engaged in a multimillion dollar copyright infringement law suit with Bob Dylan. 

It is judicially uncontested by Bob Dylan and or Bob Dylan&#039;s law firms Manatt, Phelps &amp; Phillips , Parcher Hayes &amp; Snyder, Gibson Dunn &amp; Crutcher, Heck Brown and Sherry and Sony House Counsel that Bob Dylan and people in Bob Dylan&#039;s entourage have solicited James Damiano&#039;s songs and music for over ten years and eleven months, as per the law suit.

District Judge Jerome B. Simandle states in his decision &quot;This court will accept as true Plaintiff&#039;s allegations that Sony represented to him that he would be credited and compensated for his work if Dylan used it. Judge Simandle also stated in his decision &quot;Plaintiff has demonstrated a genuine issue of material fact as to whether defendants had access to his work.

http://www.jamesdamiano.com/

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.jamesdamiano.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Read more The Bob Dylan James Damiano Story&lt;/a&gt;

Richard Frankel 

uslawjournal@gmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob Dylan Sued Over Dignity For Plagiarism</p>
<p>Camden NJ June 2, 2009 -Few artists can lay claim to the controversy that has surrounded the career of songwriter James Damiano. Twenty-two years ago James Damiano began an odyssey that led him into a legal maelstrom with Bob Dylan that, to this day, fascinates the greatest of intellectual minds.</p>
<p>As the curtain rises on the stage of deceit we learn that CBS used songs and<br />
lyrics for international recording artist, Bob Dylan. Bob Dylan&#8217;s name is credited to the songs. One of those songs is nominated for a Grammy as best rock song of the year. Ironically the title of that song is Dignity.</p>
<p>Since auditioning for the legendary CBS Record producer John Hammond, Sr., who influenced the careers of music industry icons Billy Holiday, Bob Dylan, Pete Seger, Bruce Springsteen and Stevie Ray Vaughan, James has engaged in a multimillion dollar copyright infringement law suit with Bob Dylan. </p>
<p>It is judicially uncontested by Bob Dylan and or Bob Dylan&#8217;s law firms Manatt, Phelps &amp; Phillips , Parcher Hayes &amp; Snyder, Gibson Dunn &amp; Crutcher, Heck Brown and Sherry and Sony House Counsel that Bob Dylan and people in Bob Dylan&#8217;s entourage have solicited James Damiano&#8217;s songs and music for over ten years and eleven months, as per the law suit.</p>
<p>District Judge Jerome B. Simandle states in his decision &#8220;This court will accept as true Plaintiff&#8217;s allegations that Sony represented to him that he would be credited and compensated for his work if Dylan used it. Judge Simandle also stated in his decision &#8220;Plaintiff has demonstrated a genuine issue of material fact as to whether defendants had access to his work.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jamesdamiano.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.jamesdamiano.com/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.jamesdamiano.com/" rel="nofollow">Read more The Bob Dylan James Damiano Story</a></p>
<p>Richard Frankel </p>
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		<title>By: Christian Matschke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christian Matschke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jun 2009 19:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot help but think that making copyright laws ever more strict ultimately leads to shifting income from artists and performers to business people who don&#039;t actually contribute anything on a cultural level. 

Which is ironic, because the initial idea of copyright was just the opposite: securing artists a bigger piece of the cake so that culture may thrive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot help but think that making copyright laws ever more strict ultimately leads to shifting income from artists and performers to business people who don&#8217;t actually contribute anything on a cultural level. </p>
<p>Which is ironic, because the initial idea of copyright was just the opposite: securing artists a bigger piece of the cake so that culture may thrive.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Riggs-
If Sony took over publishing to West End Blues, then Armstrong got paid (or at least he should have), which was his choice. I think this says as much about the composer as the industry and lawmakers. Granted, the current laws were made out of fear of losing control of Mickey Mouse, Disney themes, etc, but this hardly affects the realm of jazz improv or live performance. The same statutory licenses were required (although probably not always obtained) 40 years ago as are today, and anyone playing or referenceing Dylan&#039;s work while playing in a coffee shop is covered by the venue&#039;s ASCAP/BMI licenses.

If you want to start selling copies of a derivative work, just keep in mind what the composer may have done: sold their rights for money. While not legally a Work-for-hire, the result is similar. I&#039;m sure the artist community would prefer to see it as an Us-vs.-Them scenario between themselves and the stiffs, but if the stiffs are to be blamed, so are the composers. It&#039;s increasingly common for labels to buy some or all of the pub rights, but that&#039;s one of the few ways they can still survive (because they sure aren&#039;t profiting on record sales anymore).

As a songwriter who&#039;s assigned a portion of my publisher&#039;s share over to a label in exchange for recording costs, I can say that this segment of the current copyright law is hardly the worst part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Riggs-<br />
If Sony took over publishing to West End Blues, then Armstrong got paid (or at least he should have), which was his choice. I think this says as much about the composer as the industry and lawmakers. Granted, the current laws were made out of fear of losing control of Mickey Mouse, Disney themes, etc, but this hardly affects the realm of jazz improv or live performance. The same statutory licenses were required (although probably not always obtained) 40 years ago as are today, and anyone playing or referenceing Dylan&#8217;s work while playing in a coffee shop is covered by the venue&#8217;s ASCAP/BMI licenses.</p>
<p>If you want to start selling copies of a derivative work, just keep in mind what the composer may have done: sold their rights for money. While not legally a Work-for-hire, the result is similar. I&#8217;m sure the artist community would prefer to see it as an Us-vs.-Them scenario between themselves and the stiffs, but if the stiffs are to be blamed, so are the composers. It&#8217;s increasingly common for labels to buy some or all of the pub rights, but that&#8217;s one of the few ways they can still survive (because they sure aren&#8217;t profiting on record sales anymore).</p>
<p>As a songwriter who&#8217;s assigned a portion of my publisher&#8217;s share over to a label in exchange for recording costs, I can say that this segment of the current copyright law is hardly the worst part.</p>
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		<title>By: Jymi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jymi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 19:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is absolute ignorance in action. I bet not one of this legal types is a musician, or they wouldn&#039;t be making such idiotic laws. Music always has been, and always will be, about taking what you&#039;ve heard and somehow making it your own. If borrowing ideas from your inspirations is made illegal, music as we know it will die, and/or be forced underground. Can you imagine accountants telling doctors what they can and can&#039;t do??? This is no different, these fools have no place to say a damn thing about this issue. Go count your money in a vault somewhere, but leave us creative type the hell alone!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is absolute ignorance in action. I bet not one of this legal types is a musician, or they wouldn&#8217;t be making such idiotic laws. Music always has been, and always will be, about taking what you&#8217;ve heard and somehow making it your own. If borrowing ideas from your inspirations is made illegal, music as we know it will die, and/or be forced underground. Can you imagine accountants telling doctors what they can and can&#8217;t do??? This is no different, these fools have no place to say a damn thing about this issue. Go count your money in a vault somewhere, but leave us creative type the hell alone!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ransom Riggs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ransom Riggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Tom --

I&#039;m not.  The synchronization and publishing rights to west end blues are owned by Sony, so it&#039;s not in the public domain.  That means other artists can&#039;t reference it musically in their own work, it technically can&#039;t be played or performed in public without royalties being paid, etc.  It&#039;s a part of our national heritage but not part of our cultural commons -- it is, essentially, locked away.

And people, come on.  I&#039;m not saying Dylan is a thief.  But the absurdity of modern copyright law, had it been in effect that way it is now back in the 60s, would&#039;ve made him one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Tom &#8211;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not.  The synchronization and publishing rights to west end blues are owned by Sony, so it&#8217;s not in the public domain.  That means other artists can&#8217;t reference it musically in their own work, it technically can&#8217;t be played or performed in public without royalties being paid, etc.  It&#8217;s a part of our national heritage but not part of our cultural commons &#8212; it is, essentially, locked away.</p>
<p>And people, come on.  I&#8217;m not saying Dylan is a thief.  But the absurdity of modern copyright law, had it been in effect that way it is now back in the 60s, would&#8217;ve made him one.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 15:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Riggs is confusing copyrights on intellectual property with ownership of sound recordings. These are 2 completely different sets of laws. Sony owns the recording of &quot;West End Blues&quot;; that has nothing to do with public domain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Riggs is confusing copyrights on intellectual property with ownership of sound recordings. These are 2 completely different sets of laws. Sony owns the recording of &#8220;West End Blues&#8221;; that has nothing to do with public domain.</p>
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