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		<title>By: Steve M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2011 18:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert Lincoln certainly was a Republican too. He used his daddy&#039;s name to get into the inner circle of the White House and become stinking rich.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert Lincoln certainly was a Republican too. He used his daddy&#8217;s name to get into the inner circle of the White House and become stinking rich.</p>
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		<title>By: Louise</title>
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		<dc:creator>Louise</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jan 2011 11:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert Lincoln had good reason to be very concerned about his mother.  Having her committed was the only thing he could do to protect her under the laws of the day.  Her financial position improved dramatically, because of his management, by $4,000, during 3-4 months she was under his legal control.  Compare to how she was treated by the US Gov&#039;t to the way Jackie Kennedy was treated.  For example, Mary Lincoln had to beg repeatedly for years for a widow&#039;s pension; the White House she moved into had holes in the walls, worn out furniture, etc., people traisped in and out at all hours in all parts of the house, etc.  Mary Lincoln didn&#039;t have a P.R. person, personal secretary, etc.  Yes, she was excitable, a bit shrewish, and so on, but she loved her husband, family and country above all else.  She didn&#039;t sell her soul for millions of dollars, either.  And, no one seems to realize, the woman was probably going through menopause when Lincoln died, or soon thereafter.  Cut her some slack.  A southern raised woman, who had all the, education, graces and culture to be a fine 1st lady was never really given a chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert Lincoln had good reason to be very concerned about his mother.  Having her committed was the only thing he could do to protect her under the laws of the day.  Her financial position improved dramatically, because of his management, by $4,000, during 3-4 months she was under his legal control.  Compare to how she was treated by the US Gov&#8217;t to the way Jackie Kennedy was treated.  For example, Mary Lincoln had to beg repeatedly for years for a widow&#8217;s pension; the White House she moved into had holes in the walls, worn out furniture, etc., people traisped in and out at all hours in all parts of the house, etc.  Mary Lincoln didn&#8217;t have a P.R. person, personal secretary, etc.  Yes, she was excitable, a bit shrewish, and so on, but she loved her husband, family and country above all else.  She didn&#8217;t sell her soul for millions of dollars, either.  And, no one seems to realize, the woman was probably going through menopause when Lincoln died, or soon thereafter.  Cut her some slack.  A southern raised woman, who had all the, education, graces and culture to be a fine 1st lady was never really given a chance.</p>
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		<title>By: Nacho Mama</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nacho Mama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Nov 2010 16:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While it may be left to future generations of professional historians to argue whether Robert Todd Lincoln was in fact a &#039;douchebag,&#039; it is clear that he was one man who did not get along with his mother.

The mother, Mary Todd Lincoln, was clearly intelligent, and she was indeed female. The word &#039;powerful,&#039; as used above is used in a nonstandard way. Usually a &#039;powerful&#039; person is said to possess great physical strength (which she did not have) or political or organization power -- the power to affect events. If anything, Mary Todd Lincoln was pitiable victim of events, actually quite powerless in her life after the murder of her husband.

But, in the quasi-political/psychological context, as above, &#039;powerful&#039; by an objective observer can also appear to be behavior that is &#039;dominating,&#039; &#039;manipulative,&#039; and/or &#039;ruthless and cunning.&#039;

If that is the case, then mother and son were, in fact, both &quot;powerful.&quot;

It is a weird modern argument that Mary Todd Lincoln was some kind of misunderstood forerunning feminist, who had her modern ways misinterpreted as mental illness.

The answer is less pleasing -- their grief made both of them a little mad. If there is any gender issue her, it was that Robert&#039;s mental illness -- seen in his mania to the state remove his mother from his life -- was more socially acceptable, or, was easier to cloak in social acceptable motive.

During the last decades of their lives, they used the same sorts of tactics against each other in a mutually destructive effort to somehow cope with the tragedy that filled their lives.

Remember, not only was father and husband Abraham murdered. All of Mary Todd&#039;s other children -- Robert Todd&#039;s siblings -- had died before the family left the White House.

Theirs was a family tree draped in black crepe.

How did the two deal with this frustration, grief and anxiety?

Robert Todd focused on becoming rich. Mary Todd went mad.

She was indeed insane, or at least suffered from bouts of insanity. The record is clear on that point and cannot be denied.

Corroborated testimony shows, for example that she was &quot;possessed with the idea that some Indian spirit was working in her head and taking wires out of her eyes.&quot; She ordered eight sets of the same set of curtains. Is that overspending, or is that a reaction to a paranoid delusion.

In court, Robert Todd said he wanted the spending to stop. In the twisted repression of Victorian America, it seemed consistent to seek commital of a person but not insist that they were mentally ill. To do so would mean to admit there was mental illness in the family, a shameful thing. The best strategy was to make it all about some banal issue, like the money, when everyone knew the score -- it was about mental sense, principally, not dollars and cents.

Meanwhile, Robert Todd pulled many legal tricks to get his mother committed as quickly as possible. He used his influence with the state legislature to have the commital law rewritten to suit his efforts. Interestingly, as pointed out, his wily mother&#039;s own legal skills outwitted her lawyer son.

At the same time as the Lincoln Affair, there were millions of other American families, without the renown or money, acting exactly the same way. Those nameless women, abusers of their family, and abused by their family, are never called feminists, yet they acted as she did, even if they didn&#039;t auction their old clothes in a tacky New York City event.

Mary Todd Lincoln was indeed crazy, at least some of the time. And Robert Tood, by a modest standard, was not a loving, caring son and was in fact quick cruel to his mother. Neither behavior pattern is new, nor did either of them break ground in low forms of intrafamilial combat.

And, as the records show, this fighting didn&#039;t commence only after the assassination. The Lincoln homelife was not always or particularly tranquil. There is much suggestive evidence that Abraham Lincoln was physically abused -- beaten -- on more than occassion by his own wife.

So, the picture in of Robert Todd and his mother at the time of her commital is but a late chapter in a long and tragic family story.

Mary Todd cannot, no matter how hard we try from our vantage point, be recruited into the 20th or 21st century. She was not a proto-feminist.

She was a stern woman, so concerned about her social position that she often broke social convention in sometimes bewildering efforts to make sure she was not one-upped by her supposed social rivals.

Such thoroughly strict adherence to 19th century social and gender norms, even with unusual tactics, does not make her a feminist.

They make her a complex woman, worthy of study and biography, and, more than a little pity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While it may be left to future generations of professional historians to argue whether Robert Todd Lincoln was in fact a &#8216;douchebag,&#8217; it is clear that he was one man who did not get along with his mother.</p>
<p>The mother, Mary Todd Lincoln, was clearly intelligent, and she was indeed female. The word &#8216;powerful,&#8217; as used above is used in a nonstandard way. Usually a &#8216;powerful&#8217; person is said to possess great physical strength (which she did not have) or political or organization power &#8212; the power to affect events. If anything, Mary Todd Lincoln was pitiable victim of events, actually quite powerless in her life after the murder of her husband.</p>
<p>But, in the quasi-political/psychological context, as above, &#8216;powerful&#8217; by an objective observer can also appear to be behavior that is &#8216;dominating,&#8217; &#8216;manipulative,&#8217; and/or &#8216;ruthless and cunning.&#8217;</p>
<p>If that is the case, then mother and son were, in fact, both &#8220;powerful.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is a weird modern argument that Mary Todd Lincoln was some kind of misunderstood forerunning feminist, who had her modern ways misinterpreted as mental illness.</p>
<p>The answer is less pleasing &#8212; their grief made both of them a little mad. If there is any gender issue her, it was that Robert&#8217;s mental illness &#8212; seen in his mania to the state remove his mother from his life &#8212; was more socially acceptable, or, was easier to cloak in social acceptable motive.</p>
<p>During the last decades of their lives, they used the same sorts of tactics against each other in a mutually destructive effort to somehow cope with the tragedy that filled their lives.</p>
<p>Remember, not only was father and husband Abraham murdered. All of Mary Todd&#8217;s other children &#8212; Robert Todd&#8217;s siblings &#8212; had died before the family left the White House.</p>
<p>Theirs was a family tree draped in black crepe.</p>
<p>How did the two deal with this frustration, grief and anxiety?</p>
<p>Robert Todd focused on becoming rich. Mary Todd went mad.</p>
<p>She was indeed insane, or at least suffered from bouts of insanity. The record is clear on that point and cannot be denied.</p>
<p>Corroborated testimony shows, for example that she was &#8220;possessed with the idea that some Indian spirit was working in her head and taking wires out of her eyes.&#8221; She ordered eight sets of the same set of curtains. Is that overspending, or is that a reaction to a paranoid delusion.</p>
<p>In court, Robert Todd said he wanted the spending to stop. In the twisted repression of Victorian America, it seemed consistent to seek commital of a person but not insist that they were mentally ill. To do so would mean to admit there was mental illness in the family, a shameful thing. The best strategy was to make it all about some banal issue, like the money, when everyone knew the score &#8212; it was about mental sense, principally, not dollars and cents.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, Robert Todd pulled many legal tricks to get his mother committed as quickly as possible. He used his influence with the state legislature to have the commital law rewritten to suit his efforts. Interestingly, as pointed out, his wily mother&#8217;s own legal skills outwitted her lawyer son.</p>
<p>At the same time as the Lincoln Affair, there were millions of other American families, without the renown or money, acting exactly the same way. Those nameless women, abusers of their family, and abused by their family, are never called feminists, yet they acted as she did, even if they didn&#8217;t auction their old clothes in a tacky New York City event.</p>
<p>Mary Todd Lincoln was indeed crazy, at least some of the time. And Robert Tood, by a modest standard, was not a loving, caring son and was in fact quick cruel to his mother. Neither behavior pattern is new, nor did either of them break ground in low forms of intrafamilial combat.</p>
<p>And, as the records show, this fighting didn&#8217;t commence only after the assassination. The Lincoln homelife was not always or particularly tranquil. There is much suggestive evidence that Abraham Lincoln was physically abused &#8212; beaten &#8212; on more than occassion by his own wife.</p>
<p>So, the picture in of Robert Todd and his mother at the time of her commital is but a late chapter in a long and tragic family story.</p>
<p>Mary Todd cannot, no matter how hard we try from our vantage point, be recruited into the 20th or 21st century. She was not a proto-feminist.</p>
<p>She was a stern woman, so concerned about her social position that she often broke social convention in sometimes bewildering efforts to make sure she was not one-upped by her supposed social rivals.</p>
<p>Such thoroughly strict adherence to 19th century social and gender norms, even with unusual tactics, does not make her a feminist.</p>
<p>They make her a complex woman, worthy of study and biography, and, more than a little pity.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Oct 2010 00:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve spent quite a bit of time diving into the life of Robert Todd Lincoln.  Sad to say, he was unfortunately somewhat of a douchebag.  Shortly after the Civil War, he moved to Chicago (had his mother and brother moved there, too).  He was admitted to the bar, opened his law firm (Lincoln &amp; Isham) and became the general counsel for the Pullman Railroad Car Company.  In 1875, frightened that his mother was spending his inheritance, he went to the Cook County probate court and had her committed to an asylum in Batavia, Illinois (the building still stands, now divided into condos, about 50 miles straight west of Chicago).  Mary Todd Lincoln used her influence to get out just a few months later.  Her lawyer was a woman -- one of the first to be admitted to the bar in Illinois.  She was allowed to go live with her sister, and spent the rest of her life living in the same Springfield house where she and her husband were married in 1842.  She was extremely eccentric and constantly worried about money.  Her relationship with her only surviving son was never completely repaired. 

Robert went on to public service as a cabinet member in the Garfield and McKinley administrations.  When he was not in Washington, he was running his law firm in Chicago.  

In 1897, upon George Pullman&#039;s death, Robert Lincoln became president of the Pullman Co., and in 1911 became it&#039;s board chairman.   He was executor or George Pullman&#039;s will.  Pullman was one of the most reviled captains of industry in American history.  As the man responsible for 
his funeral, Lincoln had Pullman buried in the dead of night, in an unmarked grave, under a slab of ten-foot thick concrete, to avoid desecration or theft or Pullman&#039;s body.  Four years later, he had his father re-interred in Springfield in a similar fashion.  

Lincoln&#039;s last major public appearance was at the dedication of the Lincoln Memorial in 1922, at age 78.  He was an avid golfer, a serious amateur astronomer and a very, very wealthy man.  

Lincoln built a large estate called Hildene, in Vermont, in 1901, where he spent summers.  He had three children, and two grandchildren.  The last direct descendant to Abraham Lincoln was Robert Lincoln&#039;s grandson, &quot;Bud&quot; Beckwith, who died childless in 1985.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve spent quite a bit of time diving into the life of Robert Todd Lincoln.  Sad to say, he was unfortunately somewhat of a douchebag.  Shortly after the Civil War, he moved to Chicago (had his mother and brother moved there, too).  He was admitted to the bar, opened his law firm (Lincoln &amp; Isham) and became the general counsel for the Pullman Railroad Car Company.  In 1875, frightened that his mother was spending his inheritance, he went to the Cook County probate court and had her committed to an asylum in Batavia, Illinois (the building still stands, now divided into condos, about 50 miles straight west of Chicago).  Mary Todd Lincoln used her influence to get out just a few months later.  Her lawyer was a woman &#8212; one of the first to be admitted to the bar in Illinois.  She was allowed to go live with her sister, and spent the rest of her life living in the same Springfield house where she and her husband were married in 1842.  She was extremely eccentric and constantly worried about money.  Her relationship with her only surviving son was never completely repaired. </p>
<p>Robert went on to public service as a cabinet member in the Garfield and McKinley administrations.  When he was not in Washington, he was running his law firm in Chicago.  </p>
<p>In 1897, upon George Pullman&#8217;s death, Robert Lincoln became president of the Pullman Co., and in 1911 became it&#8217;s board chairman.   He was executor or George Pullman&#8217;s will.  Pullman was one of the most reviled captains of industry in American history.  As the man responsible for<br />
his funeral, Lincoln had Pullman buried in the dead of night, in an unmarked grave, under a slab of ten-foot thick concrete, to avoid desecration or theft or Pullman&#8217;s body.  Four years later, he had his father re-interred in Springfield in a similar fashion.  </p>
<p>Lincoln&#8217;s last major public appearance was at the dedication of the Lincoln Memorial in 1922, at age 78.  He was an avid golfer, a serious amateur astronomer and a very, very wealthy man.  </p>
<p>Lincoln built a large estate called Hildene, in Vermont, in 1901, where he spent summers.  He had three children, and two grandchildren.  The last direct descendant to Abraham Lincoln was Robert Lincoln&#8217;s grandson, &#8220;Bud&#8221; Beckwith, who died childless in 1985.</p>
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		<title>By: pinkie pinkerton</title>
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		<dc:creator>pinkie pinkerton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Oct 2010 14:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;america&quot; of course was named by the lucky fella who happened to draw the first map of same (an oversimplification, of course) and plunked his name down right there - still maybe a good name for the continents of the hemisphere; but i am in favor of re-branding of the nation.

the thought was prompted many years ago by &quot;lord&quot; buckley&#039;s declamations on lincoln, and &quot;lincoln&quot; would be a great name for our country. and, from a purely marketing standpoint, &quot;california&quot; has a nice ring to it as well. 

guessing this probably won&#039;t happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;america&#8221; of course was named by the lucky fella who happened to draw the first map of same (an oversimplification, of course) and plunked his name down right there &#8211; still maybe a good name for the continents of the hemisphere; but i am in favor of re-branding of the nation.</p>
<p>the thought was prompted many years ago by &#8220;lord&#8221; buckley&#8217;s declamations on lincoln, and &#8220;lincoln&#8221; would be a great name for our country. and, from a purely marketing standpoint, &#8220;california&#8221; has a nice ring to it as well. </p>
<p>guessing this probably won&#8217;t happen.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2010 04:21:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I lived in Decatur Illinois for 15 years and soon discovered Lincoln had influence all over the state. I knew about Robert&#039;s connection with assassinations because you can&#039;t live in Illinois without being constantly reminded of being in &quot;the land of Lincoln&quot;. While working in Quincy, Illinois I discovered Abe had one of his debates with Stephen Douglas there. Amazingly, he actually outlived Douglas. Springfield is one of the best places to visit if you enjoy Lincoln. He and Mary are buried there of course and there is a fascinating museum dedicated to him near the Lincoln library. You can also tour his home and law office. There have been hundreds of books written about Abe. He was a very interesting character. New Salem also has a reproduction of the store where he once worked.It is worth visiting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lived in Decatur Illinois for 15 years and soon discovered Lincoln had influence all over the state. I knew about Robert&#8217;s connection with assassinations because you can&#8217;t live in Illinois without being constantly reminded of being in &#8220;the land of Lincoln&#8221;. While working in Quincy, Illinois I discovered Abe had one of his debates with Stephen Douglas there. Amazingly, he actually outlived Douglas. Springfield is one of the best places to visit if you enjoy Lincoln. He and Mary are buried there of course and there is a fascinating museum dedicated to him near the Lincoln library. You can also tour his home and law office. There have been hundreds of books written about Abe. He was a very interesting character. New Salem also has a reproduction of the store where he once worked.It is worth visiting.</p>
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		<title>By: Sheldon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sheldon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 18:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder how Robert would react to the &quot;video&quot; of his mother asking his father if the dress she&#039;s wearing makes her backside look big, in the Geiko ad.  lol!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how Robert would react to the &#8220;video&#8221; of his mother asking his father if the dress she&#8217;s wearing makes her backside look big, in the Geiko ad.  lol!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Dec 2009 22:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Charles Guiteau shot the Garfield, who died of complications from the wound two months later.&quot;

Oh noez! He shot the Garfield! ahhh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Charles Guiteau shot the Garfield, who died of complications from the wound two months later.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh noez! He shot the Garfield! ahhh</p>
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		<title>By: emmiline</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 05:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my family is related to mary todd- it seems there&#039;s atrait among a lot of the women in the family to be, shall we say, a touch neurotic?
it wouldn&#039;t surprise me if she was always kind of flighty, and after the death of her husband became even more so. probably not a total nutbar, but probably irksome to a son trying to gain a good reputation and wealth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my family is related to mary todd- it seems there&#8217;s atrait among a lot of the women in the family to be, shall we say, a touch neurotic?<br />
it wouldn&#8217;t surprise me if she was always kind of flighty, and after the death of her husband became even more so. probably not a total nutbar, but probably irksome to a son trying to gain a good reputation and wealth.</p>
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		<title>By: Cindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Aug 2009 01:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert Todd gave my G-G-Grandfather, (Brigadier General Thomas F. Barr, one of the two life masks of his father, Abe.
This mask was donated by the Barr Family and resides in the Ford Museum in DC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert Todd gave my G-G-Grandfather, (Brigadier General Thomas F. Barr, one of the two life masks of his father, Abe.<br />
This mask was donated by the Barr Family and resides in the Ford Museum in DC.</p>
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