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	<title>Comments on: Reader opinion requested: Should these campus games be banned?</title>
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		<title>By: audrey</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/5567/comment-page-1#comment-11996</link>
		<dc:creator>audrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 19:53:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We played a game called Assassin in in college that involved water guns as weapons and a well-guarded round robin list of the players. We played it in rounds and you were out if you didn&#039;t get your target. We generally stayed off the main campus for the game, as any school building was a safe house and no attempts could be made against you inside. I think the biggest risk of the game was not offending anyone on campus, but the chance of police mistaking your actions for something criminal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We played a game called Assassin in in college that involved water guns as weapons and a well-guarded round robin list of the players. We played it in rounds and you were out if you didn&#8217;t get your target. We generally stayed off the main campus for the game, as any school building was a safe house and no attempts could be made against you inside. I think the biggest risk of the game was not offending anyone on campus, but the chance of police mistaking your actions for something criminal.</p>
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		<title>By: Tru</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/5567/comment-page-1#comment-11968</link>
		<dc:creator>Tru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 15:38:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I still have painted clothes pins in my truck from an assassin type game played out at a Renaissance festival. The only way to kill was to &#039;pin&#039; someone. You knew who killed you by the colors of the pin. Somehow, I got killed five times that day... and I wasn&#039;t even playing. It&#039;s all in fun!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I still have painted clothes pins in my truck from an assassin type game played out at a Renaissance festival. The only way to kill was to &#8216;pin&#8217; someone. You knew who killed you by the colors of the pin. Somehow, I got killed five times that day&#8230; and I wasn&#8217;t even playing. It&#8217;s all in fun!</p>
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		<title>By: Stew</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/5567/comment-page-1#comment-11961</link>
		<dc:creator>Stew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 14:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think Assassin or Video Games like Doom can cause anyone to go off the deep end.  I am sure millions of peace loving people play these games.  These games do not cause VA Tech incidents.  Troubled evil people do!

However, I believe that people who do go off the deep end, that have played these games, are more efficient at the evil that they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Assassin or Video Games like Doom can cause anyone to go off the deep end.  I am sure millions of peace loving people play these games.  These games do not cause VA Tech incidents.  Troubled evil people do!</p>
<p>However, I believe that people who do go off the deep end, that have played these games, are more efficient at the evil that they do.</p>
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		<title>By: KJ</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/5567/comment-page-1#comment-11949</link>
		<dc:creator>KJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 13:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@LJ - Yea! Another Kent Stater and I&#039;m reading this on May 4th, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@LJ &#8211; Yea! Another Kent Stater and I&#8217;m reading this on May 4th, too.</p>
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		<title>By: LJ</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/5567/comment-page-1#comment-11918</link>
		<dc:creator>LJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 May 2007 02:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I organized a TAG game when I was a student at Kent State University back in the late 80s.

I ended up get a nasty call from the Student Life Office about my signs being in violation of a rule about listing the sponsoring club.  

After fixing that via sponsoship from the Gaming Club [I was, of course, the President], I was &quot;invited&quot; to chat with the Campus Police, who asked me to reconsider, and call it off.  When I politely declined, explaining that I&#039;d run these before [in my high school, no less], I was &quot;invited&quot; for a chit with the campus legal department.

What fun!

Should folks stop, in light od VA Tech?
well, I think it would not be inapropriate to take a break.  Then pick back up after a while. Or maybe just don&#039;t advertise so much. Stay low key while people are still smarting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I organized a TAG game when I was a student at Kent State University back in the late 80s.</p>
<p>I ended up get a nasty call from the Student Life Office about my signs being in violation of a rule about listing the sponsoring club.  </p>
<p>After fixing that via sponsoship from the Gaming Club [I was, of course, the President], I was &#8220;invited&#8221; to chat with the Campus Police, who asked me to reconsider, and call it off.  When I politely declined, explaining that I&#8217;d run these before [in my high school, no less], I was &#8220;invited&#8221; for a chit with the campus legal department.</p>
<p>What fun!</p>
<p>Should folks stop, in light od VA Tech?<br />
well, I think it would not be inapropriate to take a break.  Then pick back up after a while. Or maybe just don&#8217;t advertise so much. Stay low key while people are still smarting.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 20:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, thanks Mar!  The book we had was called Killer as well.  I remember now... It&#039;s been a while...

One of the more ingenious attacks against me involved petroleum jelly on the underside of my car&#039;s door handle.  Stuck to it was a note in a little plastic baggy that read, &quot;Consider this contact poison.  If your hands are bare, you are dead. Beneath your right rear tire is a rag for cleanup.  Thanks.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, thanks Mar!  The book we had was called Killer as well.  I remember now&#8230; It&#8217;s been a while&#8230;</p>
<p>One of the more ingenious attacks against me involved petroleum jelly on the underside of my car&#8217;s door handle.  Stuck to it was a note in a little plastic baggy that read, &#8220;Consider this contact poison.  If your hands are bare, you are dead. Beneath your right rear tire is a rag for cleanup.  Thanks.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 20:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, I think it&#039;s pretty hypocritical trying to stop people from playing a game but allowing them to legally own submachine guns...

I used to play &quot;Killer&quot; (as the Steve Jackson rules book was called here in Spain) back in my first years of college. We wouldn&#039;t intrude in ongoing lectures, libraries or offices, but aside from this I even remember one of our lecturers giving out &quot;poisoned&quot; handouts to playing students (he was assumed, correctly, that we wouldn&#039;t expect him to try such a sleazy move). 

Games don&#039;t kill. Weapons do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, I think it&#8217;s pretty hypocritical trying to stop people from playing a game but allowing them to legally own submachine guns&#8230;</p>
<p>I used to play &#8220;Killer&#8221; (as the Steve Jackson rules book was called here in Spain) back in my first years of college. We wouldn&#8217;t intrude in ongoing lectures, libraries or offices, but aside from this I even remember one of our lecturers giving out &#8220;poisoned&#8221; handouts to playing students (he was assumed, correctly, that we wouldn&#8217;t expect him to try such a sleazy move). </p>
<p>Games don&#8217;t kill. Weapons do.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 19:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We called it TAG - &quot;The Assassination Game&quot; and used the Steve Jackson book of the same name for rules.  

All-in-all, it&#039;s simply a game.  I can naturally see schools wanting to ban it if it gets out of hand by being disruptive, but most games I&#039;ve participated in had a subtle quality to &#039;em.  Weapon choices that had to be allowed by a game moderator before use, no &quot;witness&quot; rules, &quot;zen&quot; games, etc.

Banning it simply because it simulates assassination is moronic and simply won&#039;t work... kids playing the game will simply hide it better. 

Besides, that kind of logic can be extended to even more moronic statements like banning football because it encourages aggressive behavior or classes on Criminology because it may lead to students thinking like criminals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We called it TAG &#8211; &#8220;The Assassination Game&#8221; and used the Steve Jackson book of the same name for rules.  </p>
<p>All-in-all, it&#8217;s simply a game.  I can naturally see schools wanting to ban it if it gets out of hand by being disruptive, but most games I&#8217;ve participated in had a subtle quality to &#8216;em.  Weapon choices that had to be allowed by a game moderator before use, no &#8220;witness&#8221; rules, &#8220;zen&#8221; games, etc.</p>
<p>Banning it simply because it simulates assassination is moronic and simply won&#8217;t work&#8230; kids playing the game will simply hide it better. </p>
<p>Besides, that kind of logic can be extended to even more moronic statements like banning football because it encourages aggressive behavior or classes on Criminology because it may lead to students thinking like criminals.</p>
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		<title>By: KJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>KJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 18:56:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Johnny Cat - I absolutely agree that institutes of higher learning should be places of learning.  No quibble with that.  But.  Four (+) years is an awful long time to spend hunched over the books at the library with no reprieve. That being said, I&#039;ve never been a fan of violent games, period. RPG, video, whatever, I don&#039;t play them, I don&#039;t like them. I find absolutely no thrill in killing anything real or pretend. So I agree with the school officials in their ban of the game.  Not because it detracts from learning (although EVERY other pursuit can be argued to take away from learning, tennis anyone?). Not because I think it begets actual violence (see numerous arguments about television).  Simply because it DOES mimic violence and I don&#039;t like it.  Opinion - entitled - first amendment - all that jazz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Johnny Cat &#8211; I absolutely agree that institutes of higher learning should be places of learning.  No quibble with that.  But.  Four (+) years is an awful long time to spend hunched over the books at the library with no reprieve. That being said, I&#8217;ve never been a fan of violent games, period. RPG, video, whatever, I don&#8217;t play them, I don&#8217;t like them. I find absolutely no thrill in killing anything real or pretend. So I agree with the school officials in their ban of the game.  Not because it detracts from learning (although EVERY other pursuit can be argued to take away from learning, tennis anyone?). Not because I think it begets actual violence (see numerous arguments about television).  Simply because it DOES mimic violence and I don&#8217;t like it.  Opinion &#8211; entitled &#8211; first amendment &#8211; all that jazz.</p>
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		<title>By: n2y2</title>
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		<dc:creator>n2y2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 May 2007 18:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the olden days (the 80&#039;s) we called the game Gotcha! - named after a cheesy movie.  The game is also a funny sub-plot in Dave Barry&#039;s &#039;Big Trouble&#039;.

Gotcha/Assassin is simply tag with more rules.  I don&#039;t think the game has a subversive effect on those who would otherwise not harm their peers.  Those who intend to commit violence on others certainly have many other ways to practice their intents.

However if it becomes a painful reminder of the recent past, I could understand that reasoning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the olden days (the 80&#8217;s) we called the game Gotcha! &#8211; named after a cheesy movie.  The game is also a funny sub-plot in Dave Barry&#8217;s &#8216;Big Trouble&#8217;.</p>
<p>Gotcha/Assassin is simply tag with more rules.  I don&#8217;t think the game has a subversive effect on those who would otherwise not harm their peers.  Those who intend to commit violence on others certainly have many other ways to practice their intents.</p>
<p>However if it becomes a painful reminder of the recent past, I could understand that reasoning.</p>
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