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		<title>By: GuesssWho</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/6376/comment-page-1#comment-79957</link>
		<dc:creator>GuesssWho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 23:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sara: Yeah, he did say that in the book didn&#039;t he?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sara: Yeah, he did say that in the book didn&#8217;t he?</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Siders</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/6376/comment-page-1#comment-55321</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Siders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 19:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What are the herbs used to avoid attacks of BOP on my birds?  That would be very interesting and there are a lot of people who would be interested.

Again, I want to reinterate that the rolling is not a defect.  It is a trait.  Birmingham Rollers will shut the roll off when being pursued by BOP and if they go ferrel living and flying with common pigeons will cease rolling.  It is a trait that is born from a ressesive gene.  That is why not all Birmingham Rollers roll and if you breed them to a non-rolling breed the roll is sometimes lost.

It is not a defect!  It is not a siesure.  It is like the hunting dog points or sets....a trait.

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Nick Siders</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What are the herbs used to avoid attacks of BOP on my birds?  That would be very interesting and there are a lot of people who would be interested.</p>
<p>Again, I want to reinterate that the rolling is not a defect.  It is a trait.  Birmingham Rollers will shut the roll off when being pursued by BOP and if they go ferrel living and flying with common pigeons will cease rolling.  It is a trait that is born from a ressesive gene.  That is why not all Birmingham Rollers roll and if you breed them to a non-rolling breed the roll is sometimes lost.</p>
<p>It is not a defect!  It is not a siesure.  It is like the hunting dog points or sets&#8230;.a trait.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Nick Siders</p>
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		<title>By: PAUL DERSCH</title>
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		<dc:creator>PAUL DERSCH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 17:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It amazes me how IGNORANT some people are.If you don&#039;t know anything about a subject,please don&#039;t be so fast as to show us HOW ignorant you really are. I know that the hawks are a protected bird.Their needs to be checks and  balances.The hawks have no preditors to control their population.Too many BLEEDING hearts out here.We need to get back to a means of control.What ever happend to the natural way of doing things??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It amazes me how IGNORANT some people are.If you don&#8217;t know anything about a subject,please don&#8217;t be so fast as to show us HOW ignorant you really are. I know that the hawks are a protected bird.Their needs to be checks and  balances.The hawks have no preditors to control their population.Too many BLEEDING hearts out here.We need to get back to a means of control.What ever happend to the natural way of doing things??</p>
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		<title>By: Harry Ashcraft</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/6376/comment-page-1#comment-54375</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry Ashcraft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 23:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ive been in pigeons 60 yrs,racing and roller pigeons,most of the answers i see, are from lack of knowledge,pigeons are the oldest sport known to man,they are the only animal that can see ultra violet lights, the only animal that can hear ultra sonic sounds,can return home from half way around the world,have saved thousands of our soldiers lives,these birds are in every war. they are now being used to spot people lost at sea,because of their keen eye sight,they are used in England to fly blood samples from hospital to the lab, in minutes,it takes over on hour the old way,by car.Man has bred them to fly longer,and faster,some have even arrived home after dark,think about that, flying in the dark,wow...As for the rollers, man has developed and bred these birds to spin with controlled activity and patterns,and for you guys who want more info,look up other acrobats such as Donak,pigeons,Parlor Rollers,Tipplers,Galentez rollers, Moriscar rollers Whittingham rollers,I can name many more birds that perform,if need be,So if a member of YOUR family was ever in the ARMY ask him or her about the Signal Corps, they may have a little info for you,these are the guys that handled the birds.These birds are very intelligent they are doing great things,so DONT be too quick to judge,WHAT HAS A HAWK DONE FOR YOU TODAY?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ive been in pigeons 60 yrs,racing and roller pigeons,most of the answers i see, are from lack of knowledge,pigeons are the oldest sport known to man,they are the only animal that can see ultra violet lights, the only animal that can hear ultra sonic sounds,can return home from half way around the world,have saved thousands of our soldiers lives,these birds are in every war. they are now being used to spot people lost at sea,because of their keen eye sight,they are used in England to fly blood samples from hospital to the lab, in minutes,it takes over on hour the old way,by car.Man has bred them to fly longer,and faster,some have even arrived home after dark,think about that, flying in the dark,wow&#8230;As for the rollers, man has developed and bred these birds to spin with controlled activity and patterns,and for you guys who want more info,look up other acrobats such as Donak,pigeons,Parlor Rollers,Tipplers,Galentez rollers, Moriscar rollers Whittingham rollers,I can name many more birds that perform,if need be,So if a member of YOUR family was ever in the ARMY ask him or her about the Signal Corps, they may have a little info for you,these are the guys that handled the birds.These birds are very intelligent they are doing great things,so DONT be too quick to judge,WHAT HAS A HAWK DONE FOR YOU TODAY?</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/6376/comment-page-1#comment-52814</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jan 2008 15:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can use herbs to stop birds of prey attacking you kit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can use herbs to stop birds of prey attacking you kit.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Siders</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/6376/comment-page-1#comment-37398</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick Siders</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Nov 2007 06:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trait is the proper description.  It is genetically locked into the bird as a recessive gene.

I can also understand the desire to protect thier property.  I believe that is a natural reaction; they just need to find a legal way of doing it.  They also need to change thier habits and learn the habits of bitds of prey and do what they can to avoid attacks and radicate the bird of prey&#039;s habitate and concealment.  They also can seek permits to capture birds of prey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trait is the proper description.  It is genetically locked into the bird as a recessive gene.</p>
<p>I can also understand the desire to protect thier property.  I believe that is a natural reaction; they just need to find a legal way of doing it.  They also need to change thier habits and learn the habits of bitds of prey and do what they can to avoid attacks and radicate the bird of prey&#8217;s habitate and concealment.  They also can seek permits to capture birds of prey.</p>
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		<title>By: Higgins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Higgins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 14:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dennis - take another look at the article above.  I believe you&#039;ll see that I am not painting all roller pigeon breeders as hawk killers.  I&#039;m sorry if you got that impression, but it&#039;s not supported by the text.  The article is focused on Operation High Roller, which targeted a specific subset of roller clubs, and this is clearly explained above.

As for whether the tumbling is caused for seizures or because the birds want to do it, I&#039;m not an expert -- however, the popular consensus on the issue (at least on the web) appears to be that this behavior is indeed caused by seizures.  Do you have any data on this issue, either way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dennis &#8211; take another look at the article above.  I believe you&#8217;ll see that I am not painting all roller pigeon breeders as hawk killers.  I&#8217;m sorry if you got that impression, but it&#8217;s not supported by the text.  The article is focused on Operation High Roller, which targeted a specific subset of roller clubs, and this is clearly explained above.</p>
<p>As for whether the tumbling is caused for seizures or because the birds want to do it, I&#8217;m not an expert &#8212; however, the popular consensus on the issue (at least on the web) appears to be that this behavior is indeed caused by seizures.  Do you have any data on this issue, either way?</p>
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		<title>By: dennis</title>
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		<dc:creator>dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Sep 2007 06:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this whole article is crap people who raise rollers vary from physicians engineers law enforcement military personnel and scientist and i can back that up but for people to say these bird have a gentic defect and have siezures to my knowledge there is no scientific proof to back that up and how could you sincronize a siezure these birds can control when they roll cause when one rolls it causes a reaction and they all start to roll and pigeon breeders breed for depth velocity and consistancy not for siezures and hawks do attack and kill our birds its not right to kill or trap hawks but people should get facts straight before passing on a bunch of crap and making pigeon breeders look like a bunch of hawk killers were not all alike</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this whole article is crap people who raise rollers vary from physicians engineers law enforcement military personnel and scientist and i can back that up but for people to say these bird have a gentic defect and have siezures to my knowledge there is no scientific proof to back that up and how could you sincronize a siezure these birds can control when they roll cause when one rolls it causes a reaction and they all start to roll and pigeon breeders breed for depth velocity and consistancy not for siezures and hawks do attack and kill our birds its not right to kill or trap hawks but people should get facts straight before passing on a bunch of crap and making pigeon breeders look like a bunch of hawk killers were not all alike</p>
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		<title>By: Tracey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tracey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 04:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The true idiots on this site are the ones that took everything the Feds. had to say as gospel, instead of doing some research on their own.
Sid, you say keep them inside or move somewhere without Coopers&#039; hawks. This statement is truly ignorant and could have been avoided with a little research. These birds are bred to perform in the air not in a cage. Hawks migrate so no matter where you live, you do not get away from hawks. Coopers&#039; are only one of the hawks that attack our pigeons. 
To condemn something that you don&#039;t take the time to try to understand is a sign of total ignorance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The true idiots on this site are the ones that took everything the Feds. had to say as gospel, instead of doing some research on their own.<br />
Sid, you say keep them inside or move somewhere without Coopers&#8217; hawks. This statement is truly ignorant and could have been avoided with a little research. These birds are bred to perform in the air not in a cage. Hawks migrate so no matter where you live, you do not get away from hawks. Coopers&#8217; are only one of the hawks that attack our pigeons.<br />
To condemn something that you don&#8217;t take the time to try to understand is a sign of total ignorance.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 01:33:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I the only one who immediately heard Hannibal Lecter talking about &quot;Deep Rollers&quot; and how if both of Clarice&#039;s parents were deep rollers she was going to hit the ground and die?

Just Curious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only one who immediately heard Hannibal Lecter talking about &#8220;Deep Rollers&#8221; and how if both of Clarice&#8217;s parents were deep rollers she was going to hit the ground and die?</p>
<p>Just Curious.</p>
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