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		<title>By: Daguerreotypes</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/6822/comment-page-1#comment-89512</link>
		<dc:creator>Daguerreotypes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Strange you chose that Edgar Allen Poe photo and asked why nobody smiled in photos. I&#039;m reading Roy Merediths &quot;Mr. Lincoln&#039;s Camera, Man Matthew B Brady&quot; where he describes actually taking that photo.

According to the book, Poe had entered Brady&#039;s New York gallery with a friend (Ross Wallace, a poet) who wanted his picture taken. Brady had tried to get Poe to sit for a picture but Poe wanted nothing to do with it, even though he curiously watched the process.

Poe&#039;s wife had died two years before and he was drinking heavily. Brady noticed, as you can sort of see in the photo, that his hair was messed up, his bowtie a mess, and his jacket very poor. Brady, as diplomatically as he could, assured Poe that the picture would be free, as he knew Poe was penniless. Well Brady and Wallace finally convinced Poe to have his picture taken.

He sat in front of the camera and didn&#039;t fix his hair, his jacket or his bowtie. He just didn&#039;t care. The picture was taken and he left the gallery. He died months later from grief and drinking himself to death. So in this particular photo, he was definitely miserable.

Though I&#039;m looking at the photo in the book and comparing it to the one you have posted. He&#039;s wearing the same jacket and tie, his hair is the same, the jacket has the same unbutton, and it&#039;s almost an identical pose. It has to be the same sitting but it&#039;s definitely a different shot, as his shadows are different and his face is slightly more depressed in yours. His hair is better in yours too. Also one of these two images is reversed, as the part in his hair is on the left side of the photo in the book. I don&#039;t know which one is the real reversed negative.

Anyway, it&#039;s a really interesting book. Some of the stories he shares about Lincoln getting his picture taken are cool too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Strange you chose that Edgar Allen Poe photo and asked why nobody smiled in photos. I&#8217;m reading Roy Merediths &#8220;Mr. Lincoln&#8217;s Camera, Man Matthew B Brady&#8221; where he describes actually taking that photo.</p>
<p>According to the book, Poe had entered Brady&#8217;s New York gallery with a friend (Ross Wallace, a poet) who wanted his picture taken. Brady had tried to get Poe to sit for a picture but Poe wanted nothing to do with it, even though he curiously watched the process.</p>
<p>Poe&#8217;s wife had died two years before and he was drinking heavily. Brady noticed, as you can sort of see in the photo, that his hair was messed up, his bowtie a mess, and his jacket very poor. Brady, as diplomatically as he could, assured Poe that the picture would be free, as he knew Poe was penniless. Well Brady and Wallace finally convinced Poe to have his picture taken.</p>
<p>He sat in front of the camera and didn&#8217;t fix his hair, his jacket or his bowtie. He just didn&#8217;t care. The picture was taken and he left the gallery. He died months later from grief and drinking himself to death. So in this particular photo, he was definitely miserable.</p>
<p>Though I&#8217;m looking at the photo in the book and comparing it to the one you have posted. He&#8217;s wearing the same jacket and tie, his hair is the same, the jacket has the same unbutton, and it&#8217;s almost an identical pose. It has to be the same sitting but it&#8217;s definitely a different shot, as his shadows are different and his face is slightly more depressed in yours. His hair is better in yours too. Also one of these two images is reversed, as the part in his hair is on the left side of the photo in the book. I don&#8217;t know which one is the real reversed negative.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s a really interesting book. Some of the stories he shares about Lincoln getting his picture taken are cool too.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/6822/comment-page-1#comment-87324</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 02:58:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The main reason we see the dour looks on the faces of those old daguerreotype photographs is due to the long exposure times.  It&#039;s a lot harder to hold a smile on your face for the 2 - 3 minutes it took to complete the exposure.  It was a hold over from the only other method of available at the time of leaving a copy of your mug for posterity, portrait painting.  Again, if you were posing for a painting you couldn&#039;t spend that much time smiling!  There are some neat dag photos of children where they are smiling.  I gues noone told them the rules!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main reason we see the dour looks on the faces of those old daguerreotype photographs is due to the long exposure times.  It&#8217;s a lot harder to hold a smile on your face for the 2 &#8211; 3 minutes it took to complete the exposure.  It was a hold over from the only other method of available at the time of leaving a copy of your mug for posterity, portrait painting.  Again, if you were posing for a painting you couldn&#8217;t spend that much time smiling!  There are some neat dag photos of children where they are smiling.  I gues noone told them the rules!</p>
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		<title>By: Sergey</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/6822/comment-page-1#comment-27576</link>
		<dc:creator>Sergey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 15:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s culture thing.  Even now when you look at picture taken in Russia, Ukraine, Poland and so on-you won&#039;t see lots of people smiling.  Smile is for friends, relatives, loved ones and such-why whould you smile all the time?  Are you retarded? This is kind of thinking of not smiling all the time for people in Ole Europe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s culture thing.  Even now when you look at picture taken in Russia, Ukraine, Poland and so on-you won&#8217;t see lots of people smiling.  Smile is for friends, relatives, loved ones and such-why whould you smile all the time?  Are you retarded? This is kind of thinking of not smiling all the time for people in Ole Europe.</p>
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		<title>By: Thom</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/6822/comment-page-1#comment-27479</link>
		<dc:creator>Thom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 09:48:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Every president since Nixon sports a jackass smile in the official portrait, unlike their predecessors. When Clinton or Reagan go on the $5 bill will they be smiling? I hope our next president doesn&#039;t smile like a doofus!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every president since Nixon sports a jackass smile in the official portrait, unlike their predecessors. When Clinton or Reagan go on the $5 bill will they be smiling? I hope our next president doesn&#8217;t smile like a doofus!</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/6822/comment-page-1#comment-27363</link>
		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They didn&#039;t smile because they *were* serious people. Life was a struggle, half of your brothers and sisters died in childhood. Over 90% of the population had to be farmers, which was constant back-breaking labor. There was no plumbing for most people--only the pump or the well. We can take life lightheartedly--thanks to capitalism and the industrial revolution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They didn&#8217;t smile because they *were* serious people. Life was a struggle, half of your brothers and sisters died in childhood. Over 90% of the population had to be farmers, which was constant back-breaking labor. There was no plumbing for most people&#8211;only the pump or the well. We can take life lightheartedly&#8211;thanks to capitalism and the industrial revolution.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/6822/comment-page-1#comment-18926</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was always told that they didn&#039;t smile b/c the pictures were posing for something that may become historical in the future and they had to be serious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was always told that they didn&#8217;t smile b/c the pictures were posing for something that may become historical in the future and they had to be serious.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/6822/comment-page-1#comment-18915</link>
		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 17:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard that you didn&#039;t smile because people would think you were crazy as well...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard that you didn&#8217;t smile because people would think you were crazy as well&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/6822/comment-page-1#comment-18742</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jul 2007 13:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do we smile for photographs anyhow? When did this custom actually begin?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do we smile for photographs anyhow? When did this custom actually begin?</p>
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		<title>By: Winnie</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/6822/comment-page-1#comment-18564</link>
		<dc:creator>Winnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jul 2007 20:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is an excellent novel of historical fiction called Yellow Jack by Josh Russell. The main character, Claude Marchand, steals photographic equipment from his mentor (the aforementioned Louis Daguerre) and moves to New Orleans where he calls this invention &quot;soliotypes.&quot; Quite a good read, especially for fans of daguerreotypes and their history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an excellent novel of historical fiction called Yellow Jack by Josh Russell. The main character, Claude Marchand, steals photographic equipment from his mentor (the aforementioned Louis Daguerre) and moves to New Orleans where he calls this invention &#8220;soliotypes.&#8221; Quite a good read, especially for fans of daguerreotypes and their history.</p>
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		<title>By: Truovrld</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/6822/comment-page-1#comment-17936</link>
		<dc:creator>Truovrld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My grandparents passed down the idea that during that time, people who smiled in pictures were considered to be crazy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My grandparents passed down the idea that during that time, people who smiled in pictures were considered to be crazy.</p>
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