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		<title>By: Lisa</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/7563/comment-page-1#comment-121128</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 18:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My mother is an animal hoarder (mainly cats). Last time I spoke with her, she said she was &quot;down to 16&quot; cats. Apparently, the cats keep dying. She claims the neighbors are poisoning them, shooting them, and running over them with cars. Probably true. But, she doesn&#039;t take any of the cats to the vet, either. 

When I was growing up, we had two cats that each lost an eye in a fight. She never got them medical attention. A cat had most of her jaw blown off with a firecracker, and lived, without medical attention. 

The basement was used for one dog that she didn&#039;t like, which she left to defecate and urinate all over the floors. It was covered in waste. There was not a single square inch that wasn&#039;t covered in the dog&#039;s filth. The dog eventually grew an extremely large tumor on her underside that she dragged behind her, and then of course died. 

The first and second floors of the house are always crawling with cats and kittens. There&#039;s been multiple times where a litter was born and my mother didn&#039;t know about it for weeks. There&#039;s only one litter box for all those cats, so as you can imagine, the cats find other places to go. The carpets are stained, the furniture is stained, and the smell sticks with you. 

My ex husband was staying with my parents temporarily, working at a factory and he smelled so horribly they actually fired him. I&#039;ve called the cops, I&#039;ve called animal shelters, and I&#039;ve called hospitals and legal agencies to get her help. No such luck. 

My mother denies she has a problem. She actually thinks it&#039;s funny. She has named every single cat, and she knows each and every personality. 

She has a shrine set up in her house to her favorite dog, with a statue, and his ashes. If he wasn&#039;t suffering from mange when he passed, I&#039;m sure she would have had him stuffed. 

One time, several years ago, I had gone to her house, and she tried jamming my hand in the box of ashes, telling me &quot;PET YOUR BROTHER!&quot;. Another time, the cops came out to her house (for something unrelated to the hoarding, but related to her mental disorder), and one of the cops literally ran out of the house, vomiting from the stench. 

I don&#039;t speak with my mother anymore. She claims I&#039;m the one with the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mother is an animal hoarder (mainly cats). Last time I spoke with her, she said she was &#8220;down to 16&#8243; cats. Apparently, the cats keep dying. She claims the neighbors are poisoning them, shooting them, and running over them with cars. Probably true. But, she doesn&#8217;t take any of the cats to the vet, either. </p>
<p>When I was growing up, we had two cats that each lost an eye in a fight. She never got them medical attention. A cat had most of her jaw blown off with a firecracker, and lived, without medical attention. </p>
<p>The basement was used for one dog that she didn&#8217;t like, which she left to defecate and urinate all over the floors. It was covered in waste. There was not a single square inch that wasn&#8217;t covered in the dog&#8217;s filth. The dog eventually grew an extremely large tumor on her underside that she dragged behind her, and then of course died. </p>
<p>The first and second floors of the house are always crawling with cats and kittens. There&#8217;s been multiple times where a litter was born and my mother didn&#8217;t know about it for weeks. There&#8217;s only one litter box for all those cats, so as you can imagine, the cats find other places to go. The carpets are stained, the furniture is stained, and the smell sticks with you. </p>
<p>My ex husband was staying with my parents temporarily, working at a factory and he smelled so horribly they actually fired him. I&#8217;ve called the cops, I&#8217;ve called animal shelters, and I&#8217;ve called hospitals and legal agencies to get her help. No such luck. </p>
<p>My mother denies she has a problem. She actually thinks it&#8217;s funny. She has named every single cat, and she knows each and every personality. </p>
<p>She has a shrine set up in her house to her favorite dog, with a statue, and his ashes. If he wasn&#8217;t suffering from mange when he passed, I&#8217;m sure she would have had him stuffed. </p>
<p>One time, several years ago, I had gone to her house, and she tried jamming my hand in the box of ashes, telling me &#8220;PET YOUR BROTHER!&#8221;. Another time, the cops came out to her house (for something unrelated to the hoarding, but related to her mental disorder), and one of the cops literally ran out of the house, vomiting from the stench. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t speak with my mother anymore. She claims I&#8217;m the one with the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Gia</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/7563/comment-page-1#comment-121086</link>
		<dc:creator>Gia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 16:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not all hoarders are &quot;overwhelmed caregivers&quot; some pose as non-profit rescuers as many of the former volunteers found out at Chihuahua Rescue (formally in Burbank, CA, now in Kern County) run by Kimi Peck.  They banded together to try and get the poor conditions of the animals noticed.  Unfortunatly, &#039;busting&#039; a hoarder costs the city hundreds or thousands of dollars to care and bring the hoarder to court.  So Burbank, allowed her to leave with her animals, now Kern is faced with the problem.  And just recently appx 24 of Peck&#039;s neighbors sign a letter of complaint to the Sheriff about the noise, stench and gun fire.  Go to www.savethechihuahuas.org to see all the news articles, citations and the letter.  Research before you give money to any non-profit!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not all hoarders are &#8220;overwhelmed caregivers&#8221; some pose as non-profit rescuers as many of the former volunteers found out at Chihuahua Rescue (formally in Burbank, CA, now in Kern County) run by Kimi Peck.  They banded together to try and get the poor conditions of the animals noticed.  Unfortunatly, &#8216;busting&#8217; a hoarder costs the city hundreds or thousands of dollars to care and bring the hoarder to court.  So Burbank, allowed her to leave with her animals, now Kern is faced with the problem.  And just recently appx 24 of Peck&#8217;s neighbors sign a letter of complaint to the Sheriff about the noise, stench and gun fire.  Go to <a href="http://www.savethechihuahuas.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.savethechihuahuas.org</a> to see all the news articles, citations and the letter.  Research before you give money to any non-profit!</p>
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		<title>By: Vickey</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/7563/comment-page-1#comment-121052</link>
		<dc:creator>Vickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 12:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a lot of these cases start out as a kind hearted person started rescuing one or two cats at a time, can&#039;t keep up with all the litters of kitties, borderline poor, so can&#039;t even begin to spay them all.  And one day they look up and are completely overwhelmed.  So sad for all concerned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think a lot of these cases start out as a kind hearted person started rescuing one or two cats at a time, can&#8217;t keep up with all the litters of kitties, borderline poor, so can&#8217;t even begin to spay them all.  And one day they look up and are completely overwhelmed.  So sad for all concerned.</p>
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		<title>By: JJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2008 23:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My grandmother, who passed away a year ago, was a cat hoarder from the time she was in her 20&#039;s.  She hoarded cats even though she was a single mother of 2 small children.  On cold nights she would let the cats inside, but made her children sleep out on the porch.  Her children had to fight the cats for their food.

I felt sick every time we went to visit my grandmother, because of the smell and the sight of all those sick and starving cats.  Finally, a few years before she died, her adult son gathered up all her cats, hauled them off, and shot them.  (Pretty awful way to deal with it, in my opinion, but he wasn&#039;t a very stable person.)  He told her that if she ever got another cat, he would shoot it too.  She never had another pet.

I love cats, but because of her I will never keep more than one at a time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My grandmother, who passed away a year ago, was a cat hoarder from the time she was in her 20&#8217;s.  She hoarded cats even though she was a single mother of 2 small children.  On cold nights she would let the cats inside, but made her children sleep out on the porch.  Her children had to fight the cats for their food.</p>
<p>I felt sick every time we went to visit my grandmother, because of the smell and the sight of all those sick and starving cats.  Finally, a few years before she died, her adult son gathered up all her cats, hauled them off, and shot them.  (Pretty awful way to deal with it, in my opinion, but he wasn&#8217;t a very stable person.)  He told her that if she ever got another cat, he would shoot it too.  She never had another pet.</p>
<p>I love cats, but because of her I will never keep more than one at a time.</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 18:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To James:

Nature&#039;s Miracle and Kilz primer. My Mom and Dad bought a house last year from a lady that was a borderline hoarder. It was awful. Nature&#039;s Miracle was used to clean all hard surfaces thoroughly. We were cleaning appliances, cabinets, walls, floors, doors... it was awful.

Then we went around with a UV light wand (you can buy those at a Pet Store) and recleaned any spots that glittered with that light. ALL carpet had to be ripped out and replaced, with the subfloor cleaned prior to replacement (any spots that wouldn&#039;t come up on the subfloor were sealed with Kilz primer). All the walls had to be repainted with a couple layers of Kilz Primer after cleaning, then fresh paint over that. The baseboards had to be scrubbed with Nature&#039;s Miracle and Mom hired a crew to come in and clean out all the A/C vents (which had cat feces in them).

It was a lot of work, but the Nature&#039;s Miracle was the ONLY thing that got the reeking cat pee smell gone. I&#039;m a cat lover (I have 5 myself) and I cannot abide by the smell of cat pee. Nature&#039;s Miracle is the only thing I&#039;ve ever seen that really actually works. My parent&#039;s home has no cat odor now, so this did work... it just took a lot of labor to get it back to the way a house should be.

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To James:</p>
<p>Nature&#8217;s Miracle and Kilz primer. My Mom and Dad bought a house last year from a lady that was a borderline hoarder. It was awful. Nature&#8217;s Miracle was used to clean all hard surfaces thoroughly. We were cleaning appliances, cabinets, walls, floors, doors&#8230; it was awful.</p>
<p>Then we went around with a UV light wand (you can buy those at a Pet Store) and recleaned any spots that glittered with that light. ALL carpet had to be ripped out and replaced, with the subfloor cleaned prior to replacement (any spots that wouldn&#8217;t come up on the subfloor were sealed with Kilz primer). All the walls had to be repainted with a couple layers of Kilz Primer after cleaning, then fresh paint over that. The baseboards had to be scrubbed with Nature&#8217;s Miracle and Mom hired a crew to come in and clean out all the A/C vents (which had cat feces in them).</p>
<p>It was a lot of work, but the Nature&#8217;s Miracle was the ONLY thing that got the reeking cat pee smell gone. I&#8217;m a cat lover (I have 5 myself) and I cannot abide by the smell of cat pee. Nature&#8217;s Miracle is the only thing I&#8217;ve ever seen that really actually works. My parent&#8217;s home has no cat odor now, so this did work&#8230; it just took a lot of labor to get it back to the way a house should be.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer Gregors</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jennifer Gregors</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 19:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My mom, now in her sixties, has been raising cats for about 15 years. She lives in a 5 bedroom appartment and has around 40 to 50 cats. Myself and my sibblings obviously do not approve with it. Our mom doesn&#039;t look after herself anymore, the flat is disgusting (eventhough she treats the cats well), and she consistently has financial problems. We have been helping her out for the past 3 years by paying her taxes and car, but enough is enough. She has to move out of her current flat and wants a 5 room flat as she wants to find good families for the cats. The problem is that we are paying more and more for her &quot;addiction&quot; and we don&#039;t see it ending. We would like to bring the cats to an animal home and get her a smaller flat in her financial means, but she refuses, as she wants to find the best families for them and couldn&#039;t live with the fact of not knowing where they go. Her health is not good, we are slowly having financial problems ourselves. We don&#039;t know what to do anymore. We had a great education and upbringing and are very thankful to her (our dad passed away a few years ago), therefore it is difficult for us to take care of it without her agreement, we are also scared that she will harm herself if we take her cats away. We need to do something, as this is costing more and more money and she is neglecting her health for the cats. 
Has anyone had a similar situation??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mom, now in her sixties, has been raising cats for about 15 years. She lives in a 5 bedroom appartment and has around 40 to 50 cats. Myself and my sibblings obviously do not approve with it. Our mom doesn&#8217;t look after herself anymore, the flat is disgusting (eventhough she treats the cats well), and she consistently has financial problems. We have been helping her out for the past 3 years by paying her taxes and car, but enough is enough. She has to move out of her current flat and wants a 5 room flat as she wants to find good families for the cats. The problem is that we are paying more and more for her &#8220;addiction&#8221; and we don&#8217;t see it ending. We would like to bring the cats to an animal home and get her a smaller flat in her financial means, but she refuses, as she wants to find the best families for them and couldn&#8217;t live with the fact of not knowing where they go. Her health is not good, we are slowly having financial problems ourselves. We don&#8217;t know what to do anymore. We had a great education and upbringing and are very thankful to her (our dad passed away a few years ago), therefore it is difficult for us to take care of it without her agreement, we are also scared that she will harm herself if we take her cats away. We need to do something, as this is costing more and more money and she is neglecting her health for the cats.<br />
Has anyone had a similar situation??</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/7563/comment-page-1#comment-41164</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 06:29:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My mother inlaw was just charged for having more than 70 cats and two dogs in washington in a $750,000.00 4,000 sf house.that I am going to start cleaning, If anyone knows how to get rid of the smell I would love too here it...james  allkala@hotmail.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mother inlaw was just charged for having more than 70 cats and two dogs in washington in a $750,000.00 4,000 sf house.that I am going to start cleaning, If anyone knows how to get rid of the smell I would love too here it&#8230;james  <a href="mailto:allkala@hotmail.com">allkala@hotmail.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Sep 2007 22:04:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a cat lover, but i think 9 is enough for me! I think 130 cats is a bit obsesive!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a cat lover, but i think 9 is enough for me! I think 130 cats is a bit obsesive!</p>
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		<title>By: Higgins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Higgins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Sep 2007 23:24:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually met a woman who was about to go to prison for animal cruelty charges -- I forget the exact number, but she had over a hundred, and some had died, and, well, anyway, she was headed up the river.  We had lunch in San Francisco a few years back, she was a friend of a friend.

She explained that in her case, she started out taking in strays, and then the word got out that she was a cat-helper.  So people started giving her their cast-off cats, or strays they found.  At some point there was this moment when she realized she had way too many cats, but she also didn&#039;t know what to do with them, aside from keep taking care of them.  Somehow dealing with the cats became a full-time job, and lacking the income from a paying job, she found herself going into debt to support the cats.

The interesting wrinkle is that she worked with a local laboratory (may have been a university, I forget at this point) which was researching some particular cat disease.  She kept the bodies of any cats that died in a freezer, then delivered them to this lab for research (and there were quite a few that died -- presumably of natural causes -- given the total number of cats we&#039;re dealing with).  Apparently this contributed to the charges against her -- she was found with x number of live cats, and y number of frozen corpses.

Anyway, she seemed like a genuinely nice person who had let a situation get way out of hand, and hadn&#039;t managed to call a halt to it.  It reminded me a lot of your typical addict story -- starting small, then getting carried away, then losing touch with reality and just servicing the habit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually met a woman who was about to go to prison for animal cruelty charges &#8212; I forget the exact number, but she had over a hundred, and some had died, and, well, anyway, she was headed up the river.  We had lunch in San Francisco a few years back, she was a friend of a friend.</p>
<p>She explained that in her case, she started out taking in strays, and then the word got out that she was a cat-helper.  So people started giving her their cast-off cats, or strays they found.  At some point there was this moment when she realized she had way too many cats, but she also didn&#8217;t know what to do with them, aside from keep taking care of them.  Somehow dealing with the cats became a full-time job, and lacking the income from a paying job, she found herself going into debt to support the cats.</p>
<p>The interesting wrinkle is that she worked with a local laboratory (may have been a university, I forget at this point) which was researching some particular cat disease.  She kept the bodies of any cats that died in a freezer, then delivered them to this lab for research (and there were quite a few that died &#8212; presumably of natural causes &#8212; given the total number of cats we&#8217;re dealing with).  Apparently this contributed to the charges against her &#8212; she was found with x number of live cats, and y number of frozen corpses.</p>
<p>Anyway, she seemed like a genuinely nice person who had let a situation get way out of hand, and hadn&#8217;t managed to call a halt to it.  It reminded me a lot of your typical addict story &#8212; starting small, then getting carried away, then losing touch with reality and just servicing the habit.</p>
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		<title>By: rachelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>rachelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Aug 2007 20:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok. i just lost a crap-load of text that i meticulously entered...

1. she is in danger of becoming a true hoarder.

2. she does not yet fit the pathology--the cats are well cared for, the males are neutered, and they are not starving. they appear to be conditioned to respond enthusiastically, just like my cats do when i come back from walking the dog. he gets meds in cheese, followed by a biscuit. the cats think they should have an après promenade snack as well.

this document has a suitable description of the pathologies of three sub-types on: www.tufts.edu/vet/cfa/hoarding/pubs/AngellReport.pdf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok. i just lost a crap-load of text that i meticulously entered&#8230;</p>
<p>1. she is in danger of becoming a true hoarder.</p>
<p>2. she does not yet fit the pathology&#8211;the cats are well cared for, the males are neutered, and they are not starving. they appear to be conditioned to respond enthusiastically, just like my cats do when i come back from walking the dog. he gets meds in cheese, followed by a biscuit. the cats think they should have an après promenade snack as well.</p>
<p>this document has a suitable description of the pathologies of three sub-types on: <a href="http://www.tufts.edu/vet/cfa/hoarding/pubs/AngellReport.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.tufts.edu/vet/cfa/hoarding/pubs/AngellReport.pdf</a>.</p>
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