The scientific method involves testing and experimentation. If you want to call evolution fact, show me evolution. There is no proof of evolution that can stand up to the scientific method.

You have great faith.

Take a pencil, hold it in front of you, and drop it. What happens? It falls to the floor. Every time. Why? Be you Christian, Hindu, Atheist, or otherwise, SCIENCE tells us it falls due to gravity. How is this biased? Unless you belong to a religion that says magical invisible elves exist that pull that pencil down to the floor every time you let go of it, you understand that gravity is the culprit. Science is inherently unbiased because of the methodology used to explain why things are the way they are. Science tests, observes, scrutinizes every aspect of a situation without bias…why do I feel like I’m wasting my breath?

I have been studying ‘creationist’ arguments for the past year or so. At first it was just for entertainment, because i like listening to passionate views contrary to my own. Then, I was interested in the possibility of alternatives to evolution. But, what makes so angry time and time again, is the utter intellectual dishonesty of people who feel they have to believe something that, according to them, is beyond testing, while at they same time they claim to be involved in scientific discussions and research.

Im sure fundamentalist christian creationists can be quite rational in conversation. The problem is is that they are dogmatically committed to a view that is beyond reason.

They will never say, “I believe the Bible, but if you can poke enough holes in its authenticity, I’ll give it up.”

They are compelled to find any reason they can to not believe. They are compelled to disprove anything that contradicts with their historically narrow view.

The alternative they believe to be convincing is flawless evolution evidence or born again christian fundamentalism.

This is not a view produced by a mind with a real desire for truth.

Dawkins’ book The Ancestor’s Tale is every bit as awe-inspiring as Genesis, when you consider that you, me, every cow, lizard, fish, tree, and bacteria all share a common ancestor if we go back far enough.

If Creationism inspires this feeling while evolution doesn’t, it’s due to an inability to conceive larger numbers as well as you can “6000.” This isn’t unusual, but once you can wrap your head around the big numbers, rationalism is possessed of its own grandeur.

Personally, I think it is just as vapid and closeminded to blindly swallow whatever the likes of Shermer and Dawkins are pushing this week as it is to blindly swallow relgious text without questioning what you read.

I’ve read about AJ’s book and I think I’d like to pick up a copy. I appreciate the openness to the idea of YEC thought. As far as I’m concerned, it’s not a huge deal to my faith if earth was created in 6 days or if earth was created over many years, as it’s not a salvation issue… but it is nice to not be seen as a total idiot for even considering YEC.

The problem with blindly accepting evolution “until it is proven wrong” is that there are parts of evolutionary and creation science that clearly contradict one another as well as portions of old and young earth theory. At the end of the day, you have to make judgements on theories based on your underlying faith, be it agnostic, atheist, Christian, Muslim or Hindu. You choose to disregard the work of X lab-trained PhD because of their faith, and uphold the work of Y because of their lack of it or vice versa. Whoever does not agree with you becomes the perpetuator of “bad science.” Which can’t be “true” because it doesn’t agree with your “science”.

There is no such thing as unbiased science.

YEC, ID and Evolution scientists should work side by side to establish the truth instead of trying to prove their own theories right…