mental_floss magazine
SUBSCRIBE >
GIFT SUBSCRIPTIONS >
DIGITAL SUBSCRIPTIONS >
subscriber services >

The British government announced this week that Ted Kennedy is due to receive a knighthood. The longtime senator earned this recognition in part for his work as a peace advocate in Northern Ireland. But what does it really mean to become a knight? Do you get a sword and a squire to boss around? We didn’t know, either, so we did a bit of research. Here are the answers to some of the most pressing knighthood-related questions.
Since 1917, the British government has been awarding notable citizens with spots in the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire. Although the Order was originally meant to honor top-notch civilian and military behavior during war, it quickly expanded to include peacetime achievements as well.
The Order has five separate ranks: Knight Grand Cross (Dame Grand Cross for women), Knight Commander (Dame Commander), Commander, Officer, and Member. Achieving one of the first two ranks earns a person a slot in the knighthood, which means they can add “Sir” or “Dame” to their names. All members of the Order of the British Empire can add the initials of their rank to the end of their names, though, which is why you sometimes read about celebrities with ranks following their names, like “Roger Daltrey, CBE.”
Not quite. Since Kennedy isn’t a citizen of the realm, his knighthood is honorary. He’s not allowed to call himself Sir Ted, although if he so chooses, he can write his name out as Edward Kennedy KBE.

Kennedy’s still in good company, though, as a number of notable figures have received honorary knighthoods. Bono, Bill Gates (pictured), Steven Spielberg, and Rudy Giuliani can all append “KBE” to their names if they so desire. Also, if an honorary knight later becomes a citizen of the realm, the honor is usually made substantive, or “bumped up” into real knighthood. Irish-born BBC personality Terry Wogan received an honorary knighthood in 2005, and when he became a British citizen later that year, he could start making people call him Sir Terry Wogan.
Technically, the reigning monarch is the sovereign of the Order and is in charge of making all appointments. On a more practical level, though, the monarch receives counsel and recommendations from the Secretary of State for Defence and the Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs.
Membership in the Order of the British Empire is available for all sorts of reasons, from superlative civil or military service to artistic achievement to charity work.
While lots of notable figures are offered the honor of joining the Order of the British Empire, only a few heavy hitters get to become knights and dames commander. Simply put, these higher honors go to the bigger names. For example, current Dames Commander include Judi Dench, Jane Goodall, and Helen Mirren. Generally, it’s a good idea to make a pretty substantial service and cultural contribution to the British realm.
A few members of the Order of the British Empire aren’t technically knights within the organization’s hierarchy, but they’re allowed to call themselves sir. These guys have been knighted by the monarchy, but not as part of an order of chivalry like the Order of the British Empire. They can call themselves “Sir,” but there aren’t any additional letters added to their names. Elton John, Paul McCartney, and some other famous “Sirs” have this type of knighthood.
Nope. In fact, a number of people have turned down the honor due to uneasiness with its militaristic or imperialist overtones. According to an AP story, 2 percent of the 3000 or so people offered spots in the Order each year decline them.
David Bowie supposedly declined offers to join twice, including an offer of knighthood in 2003, because he felt the whole business was a waste of time. John Cleese rejected a CBE and said he felt much more honored when a Swiss zoologist named a lemur after him in 2005. Vanessa Redgrave became a Commander of the British Empire in 1967, but she turned down an offer of damehood in 1999. Keith Richards turned down a spot as Commander of the British Empire and viciously mocked bandmate Mick Jagger for taking a knighthood, which he called a “f—ing paltry honour.”
Generally, when a person declines an honor, they don’t crow to the media about it. Rather, they discretely tell the tale after some time has passed.
You don’t get to joust or wear armor, but you do pick up a few unusual garments. Knights and Dames Grand Cross get to wear special gear to formal events like coronations. This getup includes a pink-with-gray-edges satin mantle and a collar of six gold medallions.
All members of the Order are allowed to wear the group’s badge. The badge is basically a cross hanging from a pink ribbon with gray edges, although various ranks wear their badge in unique ways. Members and Officers simply wear their badges like military medals pinned to their chests, while higher-ups wear theirs on sashes or around their necks.
Other benefits include getting a spot in the British order of precedence, the arcane system that develops the hierarchy of ceremonial importance for things like state dinners. Furthermore, knights win their wives the right to be called “Lady,” and Knights and Dames Grand Cross can modify their coats of arms to reflect the honor.
More from mental_floss…
8 Tuition-Free Colleges
*
5 Great Depression Success Stories
*
8 Successful People Grateful They Got Canned
*
Your Tattoo Might Not Mean What You Think
*
Time Stands Still: The Psychology of Casinos
One would think that the fact that Ted Kennedy drove off a bridge drunk, and left one of his workers to drown in a submerged vehicle, would be enough to keep him OFF the “to be knighted” list.
Ted Kennedy is a waste of space, and his name, and his name alone, is the only reason he has gotten where he is in life.
I’m a Masshole, and I can’t stand Ted Kennedy.
posted by Cassie on 3-5-2009 at 11:01 pm
Sir Chappaquiddick?
posted by B-Doc on 3-6-2009 at 3:45 am
Cassie, a criminal conviction would exclude from being considered for a knighthood but *not* the rumour of bad, lecherous or unruly behaviour. If important decisions were based on rumour then nothing would ever get done.
I suggest that if you can cite a conviction that you prediction The Queen (and Yes, she does listen to such consul).
posted by Karl on 3-6-2009 at 5:33 am
Yes, Cassie, thank you for all your similar achievements in life. They’ve been greatly appreciated.
Signed,
The World
posted by Ouisa on 3-6-2009 at 8:53 am
Read the article B-Doc, it is Chappaquiddick, KBE. Not ‘Sir’.
posted by Witty Nickname on 3-6-2009 at 9:23 am
Chappaquiddick. Mmmm, my favorite adult beverage – scotch and murky water.
posted by Jim on 3-6-2009 at 10:04 am
LOL!!
All these Chappaquiddick jokes = pure flossy gold!
I guess I’m just curious how Ted Kennedy positively affected the British Empire.
I know his daddy was ambassador to Great Britain many moons ago.
posted by Goliath The Pickle on 3-6-2009 at 10:23 am
God save the Queen..British and Proud..Ted Kennedy..Hmmm
posted by Lord Anthony on 3-6-2009 at 11:41 am
“I guess I’m just curious how Ted Kennedy positively affected the British Empire. ”
Did you read the article?
“The longtime senator earned this recognition in part for his work as a peace advocate in Northern Ireland. ”
Maybe that has something to do with it?
posted by Troy H. on 3-6-2009 at 11:42 am
maybe i’ve read this here before, but how does one go about receiving other titles – like lord or duke or count?
posted by tiffany on 3-6-2009 at 12:17 pm
Troy, Knight Of The Pretentious Empire
*wink*
Who luvs ya, Baby?
posted by Goliath The Pickle on 3-6-2009 at 12:40 pm
Goliathl: Maybe they are low on quality nominees this year and have to meet a quota…
posted by Sarah in CA on 3-6-2009 at 12:52 pm
Jim: Thanks for making my week :)
posted by Megan on 3-6-2009 at 2:54 pm
All these fictitious names, it’s all like a kids game. A Knight? Common. Just honor people as heroes, that’s good enough. I can make people call me Sir if I wanted to, who’s gonna say otherwise.
posted by Sebastian on 3-6-2009 at 3:00 pm
I wonder if Mary Jo Kopechne would approve.
Also, from Article I, Section 9, of the US Constitution…..
“No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State.”
Did Congress approve this?
posted by Ethan on 3-6-2009 at 3:19 pm
Ethan: Knighthood is not nobility, it is a title awarded to commoners.
posted by K on 3-7-2009 at 1:11 pm
As it is also an Honourary award, they do not have the right or status to be considered part of the nobility; even if it was part of a knighthood.
As for Kennedy himself, its ironic that an American was influential in the peace process of Northern Ireland. For years the American Irish funded the IRA and UDA, I guess Kennedy found all the people feeding money into Ireland and told them to stop it.
posted by Krodar on 4-6-2009 at 7:26 am
“maybe i’ve read this here before, but how does one go about receiving other titles – like lord or duke or count?”
You can buy them with Government donations.
posted by me on 4-13-2009 at 3:32 am
Yes, about 150 years ago Article I, Section 9, of the US Constitution said…..
“No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States: And no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State.”
But did Congress approve this?
This was never ratified by the majority of states and many states have omitted this from their constitutions. The argument is that in the US “all men are created equal” so any noble title should be forbidden.. the other side of that is that although “all men are created equal, not all men achieve equal” and besides, a knighthood is an honorary title “given to common men and women” anyway. It isn’t a royal title like Duke, Baron or Count. It’s a title of nobility only. Others in this country who have accepted knighthood are Ronald Reagan, Bob Hope, Steven Speilberg, Bill Gates, etc. and no one questions their loyalty to the US government. You are not renouncing your loyalty to the US, it’s simply an honor from another country.
posted by Chris on 8-16-2009 at 9:44 am